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In reply to the discussion: Damage shown from blast that stopped police-killing sniper [View all]Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)83. Extrajudicial would not apply either.
My point is that no one appears willing or able to produce some facts that show he was doing anything other than hiding behind a wall refusing to come out. That is not active resistance.
Actually, it is. He possessed the means and the will to resist after having just immediately engaged in a firefight with police. Just because there was an extended pause between shots does not mean he was not an active threat at that moment.
Unless you're going to claim they completely got the wrong guy the fact he was not shooting at that very moment does not constitute killing a defenseless prisoner. His lack of shooting at the moment of his death is more than likely due to an inability to acquire a target rather than any passivity on his part. If he wanted to be treated as a passive prisoner his obligation was to surrender.
So far, you have not provided any evidence that he made an effort to do so.
Look, I'm an anarchist. In my perfect world there would even be police but that doesn't mean I'm so naïve that I can't tell when someone is an active threat, even to the police.
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If you're shooting people left and right, deadly force is justified for fucks sake
WhisCo
Jul 2016
#49
So if the cops tell you to do something and you don't do it, killing is justified?
Angel Martin
Jul 2016
#68
You equate Brown to a mass murderer armed to the teeth and issuing threats.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#75
By your inaccurate reading, there is nothing anybody could do that would merit
mythology
Jul 2016
#34
No....it is you who claim the killing is "extrajudicial." That is an extrodinary
msanthrope
Jul 2016
#26
It's unfortunate that you seem to think that 200 years of jurisprudence simply don't count.
msanthrope
Jul 2016
#35
"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime ..."
Statistical
Jul 2016
#38
Yeah.....no. He wasn't custodial. He was deemed an active threat, and refused to surrender.nt
msanthrope
Jul 2016
#41
He hadn't fired a shot because the Dallas Police declined to present him with human targets.
msanthrope
Jul 2016
#50
Perhaps if you'd been listening to the scanner.. you would have heard officers..
X_Digger
Jul 2016
#65
No reason to believe this one was. Perhaps you could cite a case,or a law you think
msanthrope
Jul 2016
#48
Yeah....You think a Ruby Ridge lawsuit has some bearing on its incident? Um, no. nt
msanthrope
Jul 2016
#85
To be fair, I haven't read past your first paragraph. But, I've enjoyed this subthread, where my
msanthrope
Jul 2016
#90
Execution requires the subject be under control of the authority administering the sentence.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2016
#70
I think in this case the old addage anyone can claim anything on the internet is applicable
stevenleser
Jul 2016
#43
I have no doubt they are a civil rights attorney.....in the same vein that Mr. Greenwald also
msanthrope
Jul 2016
#54
Steve graciously interviewed me on last Election night...I had been working for the Obama
msanthrope
Jul 2016
#56
You've presented nothing to argue with other than claims you are an attorney.
stevenleser
Jul 2016
#57
You keep repeating an assertion that is very dubious: that he no longer poses a threat
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#76
Did he still have the gun? How long had it been since he had last shot someone?
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2016
#66