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bluedye33139

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92. Categorically false

Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:33 PM

Jul 2016

I want a party that is a coalition of liberals, progressives, centrists and moderates working together by a playbook and creating intelligent policy. Democrats tend to disagree with each other on many things, and until 2016 we did so with passion and with an understanding that just because someone doesn't agree with you, you don't get to throw chairs at them or call them a whore. I want a party in which children don't have meltdowns because their little Pied Piper hasn't hypnotized the entire world.

You really didn't know that the government was distinct from the political conventions until today? You're learning that now? I am glad to be of help to you, and the answer to my rhetorical questions above is: No, I can't name the Green Party nominees, that is a job for people who actually belong to the Green Party. The parties are distinct from the state. First amendment protections do not compel conventions to allow all attendees to speak, because the First Amendment does not govern private space and private organizations.

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How Bernie Sanders� supporters are planning to shake up the Democratic convention [View all] DonViejo Jul 2016 OP

OMG! chillfactor Jul 2016 #1

I know... Zing Zing Zingbah Jul 2016 #4

All she has to do is select a running mate who supports the 99%. Hoppy Jul 2016 #14

Then the goalposts sharp_stick Jul 2016 #20

Helping actual people is 'moving the goalposts' AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #90

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #103

...most of which voted for Clinton. brooklynite Jul 2016 #58

Yes. We're fine. Most Sanders delegates are already with Hillary, Hortensis Jul 2016 #193

Considering Clinton won people making less than 50k a year mythology Jul 2016 #111

I and many people here are in the 99% and would support those running mates. Are all of them kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2016 #141

Why would Sanders supporters think they should have a say in picking the running mate? brush Jul 2016 #169

This is an example of what could cost us the election. Bohunk68 Jul 2016 #181

So what changed all of a sudden? The vp pick has always been up to the nominee brush Jul 2016 #197

Unprecedented? Seriously? Bohunk68 Jul 2016 #205

What are you talking about? There is no decision and approval by the convention brush Jul 2016 #207

And the Hillary will have almost a thousand more delegates pnwmom Jul 2016 #210

Stunningly inaccurate. NT JTFrog Jul 2016 #221

Why should listening to the large majority of voters in the Dem primary cost us the election? pnwmom Jul 2016 #209

Bernie supporters aren't the only people whose support she needs, and they don't even constitute pnwmom Jul 2016 #212

Pardon me for saying so, but she can win without the few who haven't already "crossed over". Lil Missy Jul 2016 #220

How sad it is that "better than Trump" is how low the bar is set n/t arcane1 Jul 2016 #203

All of them do, so that's not an issue. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #208

Well, it is going to happen. The DNC gave into some of their demands, and they still want more. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #7

lol so now we are anarchists? AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #116

Are you on board with electing Hillary and KMOD Jul 2016 #128

Most Bernie supporters are NOT -- and that's why the overwhelming majority pnwmom Jul 2016 #211

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #13

It's the nominee's choice, not yours. OnDoutside Jul 2016 #19

But it's our choice to vote. Hoppy Jul 2016 #47

Yes it is. 840high Jul 2016 #81

Let's face it, most of you were never going to vote for Hillary no matter what. Don't know what kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2016 #145

+1000 To whine is to reason apparently. OnDoutside Jul 2016 #179

Yes, and we did. Btw, it would be impossible Hortensis Jul 2016 #192

Actually it is our choice AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #91

Choose wisely. KMOD Jul 2016 #126

She won. Get over it or go somewhere else nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #22

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #38

Sorry, who are you referring to as "Third way Republican Light"? nt auntpurl Jul 2016 #41

you do not speak for all progressives, and there's no one advocating 3rd way Republican Light here n geek tragedy Jul 2016 #44

Well that's some authentic GOTV there! AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #93

They are trying real hard aren't they? At this rate, expect President Trump. nt silvershadow Jul 2016 #140

Take your shit, somewhere else. KMOD Jul 2016 #149

Thank you. I fully understand the rules. Perhaps you are upset at the position we seem to be in? nt silvershadow Jul 2016 #150

Your position should make you cringe. KMOD Jul 2016 #156

Thanks for the lecture. I will remember all of that. As luck would have it, silvershadow Jul 2016 #157

GOTV or GTFO KMOD Jul 2016 #159

Exactly why are you so hostile, and in particular to me? I don't even get it. silvershadow Jul 2016 #160

Go ahead and alert me. KMOD Jul 2016 #162

Nah, I will pass. But I do suggest you work on your own GOTV demeanor. I do find it silvershadow Jul 2016 #163

Yeah, lol KMOD Jul 2016 #164

You are so very wrong about me. nt silvershadow Jul 2016 #167

You know, there are other options besides your authoritarian My Way or the Highway blustering. NBachers Jul 2016 #188

And we didn't need a Jill Stein supporter lapucelle Jul 2016 #37

Oh how I adore "corporatist" bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #102

Too late AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #122

The final draft is done. lapucelle Jul 2016 #206

we dont...now what? uponit7771 Jul 2016 #51

See how much the never trump groups got? Exactly yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #52

Watching the Trump shit-show, what morons would want to replicate that on our side? CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #2

Morons not "on our side". JNelson6563 Jul 2016 #43

Bingo! eom BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #131

Exactly! It has been explained over and over for months that not all Bernie supporters silvershadow Jul 2016 #142

Nah! Make no mistake. We're going to win because we outnumber them brush Jul 2016 #170

Well that is true. Still, I don't ever put anything past them. I just need to stay calm silvershadow Jul 2016 #171

Exactly liberal N proud Jul 2016 #184

No one wishing for a Democratic victory does n/t etherealtruth Jul 2016 #63

Hillary is the nominee. Bernie has endorsed her. Its over still_one Jul 2016 #3

Endorsed and conceded are two separate animals. Sanders still has his delegates. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #8

This sure sounded like a concession speech to me csziggy Jul 2016 #40

The Primaries are OVER!!! Sheepshank Jul 2016 #61

And Bernie did both. He announced that she had enough pledged delegates -- several hundred more pnwmom Jul 2016 #213

What is a party bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #5

There's a problem with coalitions.Everyone wants their Exilednight Jul 2016 #54

No 1st amendment issue here bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #74

That's what conventions are about. Would you prefer if it was called lobbying? Exilednight Jul 2016 #80

The space is private bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #83

So...you want a political party, but you only want members who Exilednight Jul 2016 #86

Categorically false bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #92

Oh lordy, not the chair meme again. this is getting old and quite sad. Exilednight Jul 2016 #187

First Amendment bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #194

First amendment applies to outside the convention hall. Exilednight Jul 2016 #195

Again we are as one bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #196

What about Bernie's delegates that have a right to be there? Exilednight Jul 2016 #200

Democratic delegates at a Democratic convention bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #204

+1 JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #198

What? NCTraveler Jul 2016 #88

There is no way that I can post what I am thinking. Walk away Jul 2016 #6

+1 tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #9

Neither can I. nt LWolf Jul 2016 #12

Do it, I dare you and the others to speak up! ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #21

Why bother? I save my best efforts for places that are fully interested in electing Hillary Clinton Walk away Jul 2016 #25

So you won't say what you're thinking? nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #29

I just did.... Walk away Jul 2016 #49

Yet, here you are, posting in GD frankieallen Jul 2016 #110

Just a post once in a blue moon.... Walk away Jul 2016 #199

I double dog dare you!!!! NCTraveler Jul 2016 #89

You do it for me....I'll enjoy the freedom of posting on a pro-Hillary web site. Walk away Jul 2016 #107

Understood. nt silvershadow Jul 2016 #143

Self-entitled spoiled brats n/t cosmicone Jul 2016 #10

Hahahaha, that's rich! nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #27

+++++ KMOD Jul 2016 #55

And you don't want their votes AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #94

And you expect someone to grovel at your feet to get your vote? Loki Jul 2016 #180

Fuck those pretentious delusional spoiled brats. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #31

I second that. KMOD Jul 2016 #57

Do you want them to just stay home on election day? AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #96

Lol, giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #99

How are you getting out the vote? KMOD Jul 2016 #129

I doubt you'll receive BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #177

I am getting very nervous about our convention. auntpurl Jul 2016 #15

A corporate ticket is the biggest risk AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #97

"Shake up" or destroy? I've seen this before... TreasonousBastard Jul 2016 #16

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"Pretentious little sh**s! BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #175

If Bernie and his acolytes end up putting Trump in the White House, I won't like it. (nt) Paladin Jul 2016 #17

No one except anarchists will end up liking it if Trump becomes President, that's for sure. reflection Jul 2016 #78

By derailing a corporate ticket? AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #98

What's a corporate ticket, lapucelle Jul 2016 #105

Amazing post! Post as an OP please! auntpurl Jul 2016 #172

What a story. Thanks so much for sharing. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #214

This. xmas74 Jul 2016 #222

Can someone explain to 1,900 delegates that they LOST ? Is their politics for the slow learners ? OnDoutside Jul 2016 #18

No AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #117

Of course they can. KMOD Jul 2016 #130

It seems to be a comparatively BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #178

Castro is my man madokie Jul 2016 #23

One final temper tantrum. JaneyVee Jul 2016 #24

the vast majority of Sanders delegates will behave like adults. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #26

I very much hope you are right. nt auntpurl Jul 2016 #33

the children are always the loudest in the room nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #34

So Sanders supporters are children? AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #115

The adolescents throwing temper tantrums are not representative of geek tragedy Jul 2016 #123

Were you a Sanders supporter? AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #124

We are all Hillary supporters now. KMOD Jul 2016 #127

I predict that the vast majority of Sanders delegates will not engage in the kind of boorish geek tragedy Jul 2016 #136

Of course not. Only disruptors planning events like "fart-ins." n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #215

^This^ GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #36

"People who can't process the idea that others disagree with them" AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #125

There was an election. The Crybaby Caucus refuses to accept the legitimacy of voting geek tragedy Jul 2016 #135

+ a million! eom BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #176

More members for the hate site JPR ..... n/t cosmicone Jul 2016 #28

Huh... Mike Nelson Jul 2016 #30

Interrupt her acceptance speech? Proceed please, chauvinistic Bernie bros! GusBob Jul 2016 #35

Hate to be sitting next to a protestor whose fart Politicub Jul 2016 #39

Just like the PUMAs? GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #42

I don't know why anyone would be upset, mad, angry over this bigwillq Jul 2016 #45

spoken like a true believer in promoting a unified front Sheepshank Jul 2016 #66

The party is united bigwillq Jul 2016 #76

Yours post is one of the sanest in this whole thread. Bohunk68 Jul 2016 #185

Or here's a crazy idea, how bout we show how sane we are and we prevent Trump from winning? NightWatcher Jul 2016 #46

Exactly! The last thing we need is a circus that eclipses the current rethug 3-ringer. jonno99 Jul 2016 #68

Ok, let's look at this rationally. JNelson6563 Jul 2016 #48

Assholes leftynyc Jul 2016 #50

Do you believe they should leave the party and go elsewhere? AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #118

Easy answer leftynyc Jul 2016 #173

Oh my. Really? Wow.. nt silvershadow Jul 2016 #144

These kind of acts makes people want NOTHING to do with the far left, they act like the far right... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #53

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Some of them were actually republicans. KMOD Jul 2016 #64

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No it's not. KMOD Jul 2016 #70

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #73

no...the term existed well before the "Pro Bernie group blames everything on Brock" phenomena Sheepshank Jul 2016 #67

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #69

lol @ 'Far left' AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #100

If it means anything like how these guys act then fuck it, I know it when I see it again and... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #108

They are barely to the left of center. AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #119

Please just stop. KMOD Jul 2016 #132

If they go ahead with this, it will only show the kind of leadership Sanders has :none lunamagica Jul 2016 #56

Yes, because Sanders himself is directly responsible for others' voting habits. silvershadow Jul 2016 #146

That's not what I said, and you know it perfectly well. Stop twisting my words lunamagica Jul 2016 #152

Sanders' "leadership" depends on people following him. Once he is not in contention, his silvershadow Jul 2016 #155

and these are the groups that demand respect, recognition and...... Sheepshank Jul 2016 #59

I support their cause 100% seanbnewyork4 Jul 2016 #60

Or a loss to Trump dvduval Jul 2016 #71

Bologna AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #120

and yet it is a free country. People will vote as they wish. It is fully up to the silvershadow Jul 2016 #147

I doubt Bernie supports this behavior. n/t prayin4rain Jul 2016 #77

.+1 840high Jul 2016 #82

Yup. The Midway Rebel Jul 2016 #87

+1 cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #106

as do I. nt m-lekktor Jul 2016 #114

Bernie said he will do everthing to get Hillary elected lunamagica Jul 2016 #154

Gosh I'm sick of these sore losers. They lost. They need to get over it. OregonBlue Jul 2016 #72

Sanders supporters will not allow a corporate convention AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #101

They are going to be part of the same convention that Hillary and Bernie will be part of. pnwmom Jul 2016 #216

I thought we were all supposed to be on the same team now Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #75

this entire thread seems like an attempt to bait DUers into violating site rules.... mike_c Jul 2016 #79

Agreed. LuvNewcastle Jul 2016 #95

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #109

One day they will grow up, we can always hope. nt arthritisR_US Jul 2016 #84

One last hurrah!! Scurrilous Jul 2016 #85

This will go badly for these spoiled brats liberal N proud Jul 2016 #104

Yes, how dare they reject right wingism AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #121

You need to check yourself. KMOD Jul 2016 #133

"Centrist" vp choices AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #134

Her VP choice has not yet been announced. KMOD Jul 2016 #137

You don't even know who the VP is going to be and you are decrying her choice liberal N proud Jul 2016 #182

Being a shrill crybaby isn't a sign of ethical principles. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #138

"shrill"? Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #165

Not if used in an obviously gender neutral context nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #191

If they help Trump and act like Trump supporters Democat Jul 2016 #161

Don't know how protesting the "DEMOCRATIC" convention is rejecting right wing"ism" liberal N proud Jul 2016 #183

The differece between this election and the last one is clear to me frankieallen Jul 2016 #112

Good point Frankie Avalon Sparks Jul 2016 #113

Did you mean "we're fucked"? cwydro Jul 2016 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Jul 2016 #148

But, to this point that's the resonating message, RNC events invite even more Trump bashing HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #189

This week we stare naked authoritarianism & brazen fascism in its face.... Hekate Jul 2016 #151

It's true. The GOP plays queen while they roll out an anti-LGBT agenda. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #168

They try to chew off each other's feet. Yes, it is sickening. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #217

They have NO SAY in who Hillary picks for HER VP. I hope they get an escort out the door. Lil Missy Jul 2016 #153

If they are elected delegates, then technically they do democrattotheend Jul 2016 #218

There are not enough of them to outnumber those Hillary delegates who support her choice. Lil Missy Jul 2016 #219

Link to the Alternet version (with other views) nitpicker Jul 2016 #158

Meh. Sanders is on board. Most Sanders supporters are on board. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #166

Any Democrat MFM008 Jul 2016 #174

We will see whether she can unify the party or not Android3.14 Jul 2016 #186

It won't happen it will not be an unruly convention like we are seeing now. book_worm Jul 2016 #190

Unacceptable Takket Jul 2016 #201

I'll always love Bernie, but it's time to unite against Trump. Vinca Jul 2016 #202