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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:46 AM Jul 2016

This Election is Not About Clinton or Trump [View all]

For me, it never has been. It wouldn't have mattered to me if we nominated Biden or Bernie or Hillary. It wouldn't have mattered to me if they nominated Kasich or Bush or Cruz or Trump.

I agree with Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan on one thing. This election is about the Supreme Court. All other issues pale by comparison. There will be as many as three new appointments. The first one will tip the balance of the Court immediately. The Republicans are willing to publicly call Trump a racist in one breath, and support him in the next. It's all about the Court. They get it and we should, too.

Whatever you think of Hillary (and, by the way, I love her and always have), she will appoint Justices who will side with us on all the key issues. Citizens United, Civil Rights, Voting Rights, Women's Rights, Union Rights (my chief concern), LGBT Rights, Environmental Rights and the list goes on. We here, at Democratic Underground, as well as the Democratic Party as a whole, are a coalition of people who have priority issues. Mine is Labor. Each of these decisions break along party lines. The Justices appointed by Republican Presidents tend to vote against us, the Democratic appointees vote with us. Occasionally, Justice Kennedy will swing our way. We know that a Conservative, Republican justice will be replaced immediately due to Scalia's death. Our hero, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, most likely will retire during the next Presidential term. Kennedy is then the next oldest. So, there is a very good chance a Conservative, A Liberal and Swing vote will be replaced during the next four years. Those terms are lifetime, and usually run for 30 years.

This is no time to quarrel among ourselves. This is no time to debate issues that we can debate during the primary process 4 years from now. This is a time to look at what will shape our lives and the precedents on issues that are important to us for the bulk of our lives (or, in my case, the rest of my life. I'm 63 years old).

Let's keep our eyes on the prize. This is a once in a generation opportunity, either for us or for them. This really is a perfect analogy of "don't bite your nose off to spite your face."

I am working to get Hillary elected President. When issues come up, I won't mind disagreeing with her, after the election. But I know what's important right now, and that's the Supreme Court. And we only have one chance to advance our causes. That chance is the election of Hillary Clinton. Period.

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I'm 64 years young... quickesst Jul 2016 #1
I'll be 64 in September louis c Jul 2016 #3
In 1968... quickesst Jul 2016 #7
Kickety kick kick. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2016 #2
Kaine, like Clinton, is on the right side of the gun issue, too. MADem Jul 2016 #4
Kaine winetourdriver Jul 2016 #8
Agreed ... the SCOTUS etherealtruth Jul 2016 #5
There is 90 vacacies in the Federal Courts... Johnyawl Jul 2016 #56
Exactly ... these vacancies would be immediately filled by conservative .... etherealtruth Jul 2016 #57
K&R... spanone Jul 2016 #6
I’ll be 69 in December... mahannah Jul 2016 #9
^^^This.^^^ n/t Different Drummer Jul 2016 #26
I wish diehard millennials had this attitude. Chicago1980 Jul 2016 #30
K & R ......for visibility.. Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #10
Massive K & R from this 70-year-old. Let's keep our eyes on the real prize. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #11
Wow, I thought you were a 23 year old student for some reason. runaway hero Jul 2016 #37
Should I be flattered or incensed? LOL! Do I sound "wet-behind-the-ears" or a bit callow? Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #40
Flattered LOL runaway hero Jul 2016 #43
My "salad days" as a graduate student here in Paris are long past. I'm now a retired Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #47
Congrats on the retirement! runaway hero Jul 2016 #50
Thanks. Don't think you would've been eligible, however. I taught TOEFL classes. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #52
Could Sarah Palin sign up for your class? keithbvadu2 Jul 2016 #53
She'd probably need remedial classes first! Bwaahaaaaa! Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #55
That is unfortunately true for... 3catwoman3 Jul 2016 #59
No I wouldn't :) runaway hero Jul 2016 #58
I'd like to kick this 100 times!!!!!!! COLGATE4 Jul 2016 #12
kick in the AM. thanks louis c Jul 2016 #61
I couldn't agree more! I have many friends who are now saying the system is broken and they Liberal In Red State Jul 2016 #13
K&R. Yes please! Overseas Jul 2016 #14
Given that some Federall judge positions kairos12 Jul 2016 #15
Some folks younger than me think they have certain rights greymattermom Jul 2016 #16
Well put! volstork Jul 2016 #17
Elect D Senate. Elect D Legislatures to squash gerrymndering. Make Ryan sweat & maybe a D House. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #18
I've been saying that since day one. The Supreme court is the main goal of this election, shraby Jul 2016 #19
Very true. I wouldn't weep if that incompetent idiot Clarence Thomas will join his pal... NNadir Jul 2016 #20
Thank you LostinRed Jul 2016 #21
I'm another voter now in my late 60s. This is our last chance to get the Court in the right hands... Hekate Jul 2016 #22
Agreed. runaway hero Jul 2016 #44
This Election: What kind of people are we? ThoughtCriminal Jul 2016 #23
I will vote for Hillary, but to me, its just not an inspiring ticket..... markj757 Jul 2016 #24
This post is directed specifically toward you louis c Jul 2016 #31
Believe me, I get it....but I'm going to tell you something..... markj757 Jul 2016 #35
Have you watched Tim Kaine's speech from today? auntpurl Jul 2016 #34
Yes, I watched portions....but I grew up in Virginia.....I really like Tim Kaine.... markj757 Jul 2016 #39
Here are some reasons I'm voting for Clinton/Kaine that aren't auntpurl Jul 2016 #41
I respect that, and I'm glad she inspires you, like Elizabeth Warren inspires me markj757 Jul 2016 #48
On that we can agree! auntpurl Jul 2016 #49
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2016 #25
Very, VERY much agree! kick / rec. n/t paleotn Jul 2016 #27
totally agree...electing a democratic administration is our job #1 beachbum bob Jul 2016 #28
K&R fleabiscuit Jul 2016 #29
Thanks louis c Jul 2016 #32
k&r Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #33
SCOTUS!!! Yes this will make a real difference for generations! Her Sister Jul 2016 #36
Agreed. runaway hero Jul 2016 #38
Prediction: if Hillary wins and the Senate remains GOP... First Speaker Jul 2016 #42
Even the GOP can't obstruct judges for 4 years louis c Jul 2016 #45
I think we've seen the "voters" will stand for anything... First Speaker Jul 2016 #46
K&R!!!!!! redstatebluegirl Jul 2016 #51
You are incorrect nolabels Jul 2016 #54
I hope I never get as cynical as you louis c Jul 2016 #62
It's not about being cynical, it's about results nolabels Jul 2016 #63
K & r & tweeted Panich52 Jul 2016 #60
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