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malthaussen

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42. "Rebuke" would be putting it strangely.

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 03:27 PM

Jul 2016

My assessment is that she and her strategists are not particularly interested in courting the radical fringe, who are largely going to vote for her regardless. So they naturally picked someone who they thought would strengthen the ticket with undecided voters. Any dispassionate cost/benefit analysis would tell her she has more votes to gain with Kaine than she might lose. And if the choice makes it more likely she'll pick up VA's electoral votes, so much the better. He's pretty popular down there, I hear.

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If you think choosing Kaine was a rebuke to the far left, you need to consider this: [View all] Squinch Jul 2016 OP

that is pretty thin gruel yurbud Jul 2016 #1

That's nice, dear. Tell me again how I'm not a Democrat. Squinch Jul 2016 #2

So it would not matter then if she picked a person Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #14

She already has the Bernie supporters. 92% of them. A candidate geared to getting voters she Squinch Jul 2016 #23

We will see if she can keep them now Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #28

The vast majority are reasonable people. They certainly won't go to Trump, and the vast majority Squinch Jul 2016 #30

Depends on the state Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #31

Most Sanders supporters are smart, no matter what state they live in. Squinch Jul 2016 #33

Have you ever not voted Andy823 Jul 2016 #59

It is one of the many things that I and others Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #64

I wanted someone younger like Juli�n Castro. Rex Jul 2016 #3

I'd have liked Castro. But you are right. Squinch Jul 2016 #6

I'm just ecstatic practicing saying, "Madam President." Time to make history again! Rex Jul 2016 #10

I know. This is such a huge thing, and it feels like we haven't given it enough attention. Squinch Jul 2016 #15

For me it is my mom, she is getting close to 70 and all her life she has wanted to Rex Jul 2016 #20

Me too! I think she is going to surprise everyone, too, as President. Squinch Jul 2016 #22

Totally, I hear people say this and that about her and just SMH. Rex Jul 2016 #24

I think she will go much farther left than anyone thinks she will, too. Especially if Squinch Jul 2016 #26

It would be nice to have a person of color or woman or whatever but policy matters infinitely more yurbud Jul 2016 #9

I like Juli�n he was a great mayor for San Antonio. Rex Jul 2016 #12

Not according to Trump! imanamerican63 Jul 2016 #4

Or, sounds like a spoiled, lazy bum. Squinch Jul 2016 #32

Your first two sentences TheCowsCameHome Jul 2016 #5

I would have danced while I was voting for that ticket, but then yes. She would have been hobbled. Squinch Jul 2016 #7

warren as VP would be net loss for democrats as we would lose her senate seat and voice in the beachbum bob Jul 2016 #8

you think McAuliffe is going to appoint someone ibegurpard Jul 2016 #11

You think the republican governors in all the other VP contender's states would have Squinch Jul 2016 #17

The dead-enders need to remember economics are only half of what being a progressive means. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #13

He's not stellar there either ibegurpard Jul 2016 #18

Does he not speak Spanish? Is mentioning that patronizing? Squinch Jul 2016 #21

Being bilingual is a strike against him? redstateblues Jul 2016 #56

Right? Squinch Jul 2016 #62

Look at his record on discrimination, civil rights, guns & abortion. He's rock solid. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #25

He signed an bill making discrimination in marriage against LGBT a Constitutional element Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #39

He also won the biggest award ever against a housing case... while Trump was discriminating. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #40

You are incorrect it seems. ....check downthread. nt msanthrope Jul 2016 #60

FALSE - it was a voter initiative which he could not stop csziggy Jul 2016 #65

He does speak Spanish. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #27

"They have little policy influence" ansible Jul 2016 #16

Yes. That was an exception. But he is Satan, so things are different for him. Squinch Jul 2016 #19

Ask John Nance Garner how he feels about it. n/t malthaussen Jul 2016 #43

K&R liberal N proud Jul 2016 #29

There's also the issue of cabinet positions. GoCubsGo Jul 2016 #34

She's 68. There's a real chance he could wind up President. LeftyMom Jul 2016 #35

YES! nt (Ms Bigmack) Bigmack Jul 2016 #36

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #37

As Governor Kaine signed into law the Marshall-Newman Amendment, which defined Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #38

so you going where on the ballot? Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #41

I agree that this is one of the most disturbing of his positions that I have learned about Squinch Jul 2016 #46

Total lie. That became law by being ratified by the Citizens of VA. It was FSogol Jul 2016 #49

That is good to know. I fucked up. I trusted that poster, and I found his scenario very disturbing. Squinch Jul 2016 #54

Kaine signed exec order banning discrimination against gays in state jobs JI7 Jul 2016 #61

#6 - FALSE - it was a voter initiative and the governor did not sign it csziggy Jul 2016 #66

#13 - FALSE - it was a voter initiative, Governor Kaine did not sign anything csziggy Jul 2016 #67

"Rebuke" would be putting it strangely. malthaussen Jul 2016 #42

Yes. I only use the word because I have seen the choice characterized as a rebuke. Which, I agree, Squinch Jul 2016 #45

Slap in the face, maybe. malthaussen Jul 2016 #47

You yourself described above exactly what was the probable thought process. It's Squinch Jul 2016 #48

No, you misunderstand. malthaussen Jul 2016 #50

Oh. Yes, I understand what they are thinking, but it seems petulant to me. Squinch Jul 2016 #52

Mmm, one should be careful with such epithets, IMO. malthaussen Jul 2016 #57

. Squinch Jul 2016 #63

She won't keep her word on TPP. She'll suddenly discover that, upon closer inspection, Arugula Latte Jul 2016 #44

The simplest explanation is usually correct RandySF Jul 2016 #51

Unless he becomes president. Qutzupalotl Jul 2016 #53

As a Bernie supporter and Delegate to my state assembly randr Jul 2016 #55

No, the "far left" has not been made stronger. former9thward Jul 2016 #58

Rebuke? No, more like a sharp stick in the eye. Scuba Jul 2016 #68

I wonder how ceremonial Cheney and Biden's time as VP was? Exilednight Jul 2016 #69