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Stinky The Clown

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110. Lets assume, for the sake of argument, that the party is a mess, even a hot mess.

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:26 PM

Jul 2016

Cleaning up a mess means a disruptive time while the scrubbing and scraping, and rearranging, and tras hauling gets done. And the n there's the time needed to bring in new supplies and furniture and drapes and blinds. After that there is the time needed to make all the new stuff your own.

No one does that on the day before 32 relatives will at your house for Thanksgiving. You do that well in advance. You do that when the disruption can be managed.

What is going on now is not the least fucking bit helpful. The risk is far too great.

What would it hurt to start the housecleaning on November 9th or 10th or 20th?

Really. What would it hurt?

The current disruption is at best quixotic and at worst, Trumpenabling.

If Trump gets in, we could well be looking at those who wanted to clean house to find a new country, because this one will be toxic..

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If we lose this election because of the DNC's bad behavior I'll never forgive them. [View all] Scuba Jul 2016 OP

... Agschmid Jul 2016 #1

We are going to win this electon on the... Mike Nelson Jul 2016 #2

I don't think it comes down to that UMTerp01 Jul 2016 #3

That's not going to happen. It appears that they are going to clean up this mess now! Tal Vez Jul 2016 #4

if we lose this election because of bad behavior OKNancy Jul 2016 #5

Thank you. Kingofalldems Jul 2016 #6

yes it is. And transparent OKNancy Jul 2016 #11

Trump won't have the numbers, despite all the help in the world by the media. Rex Jul 2016 #7

I believe Clinton will likely lose the election Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2016 #8

Why? Rex Jul 2016 #10

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #13

Sorry but the polls don't show there to be enough of the silent majority left to put him over. Rex Jul 2016 #15

My father told me he didn't know a single Son of a Bitch who voted for Nixon Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2016 #17

Oh I live in south Texas so yes I kinda know what you mean. Rex Jul 2016 #19

Except that is - thankfully! - not as important as other demographics. bettyellen Jul 2016 #36

... TDale313 Jul 2016 #12

Polls repeatedly showed him ahead of Clinton as far as beating Trump. Hissyspit Jul 2016 #100

If we lose, blame it on the collaboration between Trump, Putin, and Assange! mfcorey1 Jul 2016 #9

I will blame it on those who left us vulnerable to being exposed, not those who exposed it. Scuba Jul 2016 #16

So you're cool with "truth ers" who only attack the left. Got it. bettyellen Jul 2016 #37

Lame Scuba Jul 2016 #40

It certainly is. So much for integrity. bettyellen Jul 2016 #70

Integrity like following the DNC's own impartiality rule? Scuba Jul 2016 #73

The phony allegations tweeted with Wikileaks in no way bettyellen Jul 2016 #77

No one who actually cares about the stakes of this election gives a damn who's chairing the DNC. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #14

+1! BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #18

yep...this is just another arrow in the sling of the 'liberal media,' fueled by constant Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #20

Relatively speaking Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2016 #21

Lose when? The alienation from mistrust could impact many future elections. HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #22

+ Eighty gazillion Scuba Jul 2016 #23

Agreed PatSeg Jul 2016 #39

+1 leftstreet Jul 2016 #46

If we lose this election it will be the fault of the EXTREME Leftists. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #24

Yeah, let's blame them again! !! Scuba Jul 2016 #25

Since our loses are alays the fault of the extreme left, it really goes without saying who should be MohRokTah Jul 2016 #28

Damn Hippies!!! PatSeg Jul 2016 #41

Well that is the only trick they have in the bag. Rex Jul 2016 #42

If someone thinks they are treestar Jul 2016 #81

Call me paranoid... Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2016 #26

Not lastone Jul 2016 #30

Every election year there is a hue and cry from the extreme left regardless of the nominee. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #32

What is your definition PatSeg Jul 2016 #44

People who want to keep Social Security and Medicare. Scuba Jul 2016 #51

Oh, okay PatSeg Jul 2016 #59

They want unicorns and rainbows and fair elections! They're dirty, fucking hippies! Scuba Jul 2016 #62

Where is John Mitchell PatSeg Jul 2016 #87

FDR Democrats. HughBeaumont Jul 2016 #98

Yes PatSeg Jul 2016 #99

People who want marijuana legalized. People who support labor. Etc B Calm Jul 2016 #112

Even universal health care PatSeg Jul 2016 #113

Yeah those pinko commies folks. Damn them! avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #52

There is a lot of justifiable upset about the ways things were handled at the DNC. B Calm Jul 2016 #108

It's our reaction to this that puts us in peril. Chemisse Jul 2016 #27

No, it was the bad behavior that put us in peril. Scuba Jul 2016 #31

Really? Chemisse Jul 2016 #48

Trump's campaign can only exploit the DNC's bad behavior because it happened! Sheeeze. Scuba Jul 2016 #50

and people can choose whether or not to behave the way Trump wants Skittles Jul 2016 #58

Blame those who gave Trump this lever. Scuba Jul 2016 #61

I will blame the people who don't vote Skittles Jul 2016 #65

So we should all just give up? Chemisse Jul 2016 #89

That certainly isn't my position ... Scuba Jul 2016 #90

Nice! Chemisse Jul 2016 #95

Yep. They are trotting out Dukakis' "competence" argument again I noticed. bemildred Jul 2016 #29

No, it will be because a large part of society is comfortable with racism La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #33

^^^^^ THIS!!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #93

There are prople I won't forgive if she loses but the DNC will not be at the top of that list. hrmjustin Jul 2016 #34

Each post outdoes the previous. OilemFirchen Jul 2016 #35

OFFS JoePhilly Jul 2016 #38

lol really Demit Jul 2016 #45

the dnc will be the last of our worries. GOTV. spanone Jul 2016 #43

Wow. Where is this coming from. Not even an issue unless you make it one. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #47

Current events, DWS leaving etc.. Rex Jul 2016 #49

Couldn't agree with you more. Everybody shut the fuck up and move on. Paladin Jul 2016 #55

The Republicans will be happy to make it an issue. Blame those who exposed us through bad behavior. Scuba Jul 2016 #60

This is comparable to Nixon burglarizing the DNC. That's the issue here. Who's the criminal? L. Coyote Jul 2016 #67

I can manage to care about two things at once. So can you, if you try. Scuba Jul 2016 #71

I can care about everything at once and prioritize too. So can you. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #76

You need to start more threads about this... Scurrilous Jul 2016 #53

Your concern is noted. BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #54

Don't worry, if we lose it will be all Bernie's fault and the fault his supporters... vi5 Jul 2016 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #57

Yeah, how dare people be pissed off at the DNC's bad behavior?? Scuba Jul 2016 #64

Yeah that's it! You show your country! EllieBC Jul 2016 #66

Hey, it was the DNC that opened us up to all this criticism. Me, I'm voting for ... Scuba Jul 2016 #69

Ok then I misunderstood you. EllieBC Jul 2016 #75

K&R deutsey Jul 2016 #63

Hmm. I feel the same way about fairweather dems. MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #68

DNC will have little to do with any election losses beachbumbob Jul 2016 #72

The DNC is supposed to be recruiting voters, not alienating them. Scuba Jul 2016 #74

Baker puts sardines in everything, blames stupid public for his business failing. Marr Jul 2016 #88

Nah, it's always the "lefts" fault. And don't forget those damn Greens. riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #78

Anyone who doesn't vote for Hillary in November will be to Blame for Any loss louis c Jul 2016 #79

Nah, we'll just blame the left. We always blame the left. Scuba Jul 2016 #80

It's not left or center or right louis c Jul 2016 #82

Right now I am being subjected to fox treestar Jul 2016 #83

Don't blame me. I didn't violate the DNC rules. Scuba Jul 2016 #84

So you are enjoying it too treestar Jul 2016 #85

There's no joy in "I told you so." Scuba Jul 2016 #86

Concern troll is concerned. Orrex Jul 2016 #91

You got that right madokie Jul 2016 #92

scuba is 100 percent correct dembotoz Jul 2016 #94

Holy shit! Hyperbole out of the ballpark! randome Jul 2016 #96

Well yeah, except for the part about undermining confidence in our party and giving ... Scuba Jul 2016 #97

Then why are the Bernie delegates causing so much trouble? liberal N proud Jul 2016 #101

Some people don't like being f*&ked up the bunger. Atman Jul 2016 #103

Maybe they will like the fascist state the US will become under Trump liberal N proud Jul 2016 #104

Maybe... Atman Jul 2016 #105

LOL!!! zappaman Jul 2016 #102

And you're helping elect the party's nominee, how exactly? Stinky The Clown Jul 2016 #106

I'm helping the party. Cleaning up our mess is essential. Scuba Jul 2016 #107

Lets assume, for the sake of argument, that the party is a mess, even a hot mess. Stinky The Clown Jul 2016 #110

Misplaced blame. nt arthritisR_US Jul 2016 #109

You would have the privilege of blaming whomever you want... Orsino Jul 2016 #111

If you lose the election for any reason, that's going to be the end of the world, possibly literally LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #114

Let's all remain calm. NaturalHigh Jul 2016 #115