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Koinos

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Wed Jul 27, 2016, 03:23 PM Jul 2016

Josh Marshall on Putin and Trump [View all]

I know this has been posted before, but in case anyone missed it:

"Trump & Putin. Yes, It's Really a Thing," by Josh Marshall

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing

Here are just a few points he makes, but the whole article deserves to be read:

1. All the other discussions of Trump's finances aside, his debt load has grown dramatically over the last year, from $350 million to $630 million. This is in just one year while his liquid assets have also decreased. Trump has been blackballed by all major US banks.

2. Post-bankruptcy Trump has been highly reliant on money from Russia, most of which has over the years become increasingly concentrated among oligarchs and sub-garchs close to Vladimir Putin. Here's a good overview from The Washington Post, with one morsel for illustration ...


To put this all into perspective, if Vladimir Putin were simply the CEO of a major American corporation and there was this much money flowing in Trump's direction, combined with this much solicitousness of Putin's policy agenda, it would set off alarm bells galore. That is not hyperbole or exaggeration. And yet Putin is not the CEO of an American corporation. He's the autocrat who rules a foreign state, with an increasingly hostile posture towards the United States and a substantial stockpile of nuclear weapons. The stakes involved in finding out 'what's going on' as Trump might put it are quite a bit higher.

There is something between a non-trivial and a substantial amount of circumstantial evidence for a financial relationship between Trump and Putin or a non-tacit alliance between the two men. Even if you draw no adverse conclusions, Trump's financial empire is heavily leveraged and has a deep reliance on capital infusions from oligarchs and other sources of wealth aligned with Putin. That's simply not something that can be waved off or ignored.
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K & R. I can picture the Trump kids calling another meeting.... FSogol Jul 2016 #1
To shift any 2naSalit Jul 2016 #6
And THAT is the likely reason he won't release his tax returns, he is trying to undo NATO, and now world wide wally Jul 2016 #2
"There's something going on." kskiska Jul 2016 #3
Trump is too doorknob-stupid to realize he is being used by Putin. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #9
and Paul Manafort...........eom mrmpa Jul 2016 #11
Manafort intelligent, but may have sold his soul. Oh, he's working to elect Trump. Case closed. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #12
Is it possible that Manafort is working for both sides? Koinos Jul 2016 #16
Sure. Manafort will land sunnyside up however the election turns out. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #25
Good point. Koinos Jul 2016 #13
I think he likes it Politicub Jul 2016 #19
K&R sheshe2 Jul 2016 #4
Senator Chris Murphy called Trump's statement treason. Koinos Jul 2016 #5
Something's happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear. n/t Stonepounder Jul 2016 #7
Time for Trump to be handcuffed and do the perp walk. He MUST NOT be allowed to occupy the Augiedog Jul 2016 #8
Of course Trump has been backballed by US lenders and banks. 4lbs Jul 2016 #10
Buds Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #14
Looks like the horse has more than one ass. Koinos Jul 2016 #17
DUzy ! (3 asses?) Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #18
lol red dog 1 Jul 2016 #20
Perhaps it's time for us Dems to do to Trump what Trump-lovers like to do to HRC? red dog 1 Jul 2016 #15
I still think Trump's Candidacy is an art project leftieNanner Jul 2016 #21
Kick for the truth sarcasmo Jul 2016 #22
Forget Benghazi and emails... kentuck Jul 2016 #23
Deadbeat Trump wants to stiff the Russians and the only way he can skip out on the bill TeamPooka Jul 2016 #24
Stiffing Russian oligarchs might get complicated. Koinos Jul 2016 #26
Radioactive isotopes delivered via a needle prick. PearliePoo2 Jul 2016 #28
That's why he needs the Secret Service to help him. TeamPooka Jul 2016 #30
But, but... Koinos Jul 2016 #32
Scorpion and the frog. he's a scorpion, he can't help himself. TeamPooka Jul 2016 #31
K&R for more exposure!!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2016 #27
The Latest from Talking Points Memo Koinos Jul 2016 #29
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