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JohnnyHardhat

(31 posts)
18. While I agree with the substance of this post I have a few historical issues:
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 05:37 PM
Jun 2012

1) The beginning quote is highly suspect and has been in circulation for some time on the internet without any verification or citation of original source material. It cannot be trusted at this time. You can make your case without it.

2) JP Morgan did not make his fortune selling faulty guns to the military although it was one of his early deals that enhanced his wealth. He actually bought guns from the US military and then sold them back at a huge increase. The fact that some guns may have been faulty cannot be blamed on him.

3) Jack Morgan (JP's son) hated Germans and particularly Nazis. However the Morgan bank was asked by the US government to prop up the post-WWI German economy so it would not devolve into further chaos. As we now know, Hitler then defaulted on paying the loan back and used the money to build up his military. Not a good foreign policy decision for the US.

Again, I agree the republicans have done zero for the economy and have blocked good economic initiatives but I also blame Democrats for allowing free market ideology to trump regulation. It was the 1999 Financial Services Modernization Act under Clinton that repealed the basic separation of banks and investment houses, known as Glass-Steagall, that eventually destroyed the economy in 2008.

Worse though, we had a chance with the Dodd/Frank bill to right the wrongs of the past and re-regulate and we didn't. We got a watered-down bill heavily influenced by Wall Street lobbyists... And this was with a Dem Pres. and Congress after the worst financial disaster since the depression. Therefore we cannot just blame others for all of the horrible decisions and lack of initiative.

We must actively engage our team (Democrats) to do a better job of regulating the industry and ensuring stability, fairness, and transparency. This includes re-instating Glass-Steagall, breaking up "too big to fail" banks, and insisting on specific benchmark terms for credit lending when doling out stimulus funds.

That Republicans do not support these efforts is not surprising. They are a party of the wealthy, for the wealthy. What is surprising, is that some Democrats may not fully embrace these measures.

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So, 51% of the people don't believe the GOP when they say they are holding the economy hostage? Kalidurga Jun 2012 #1
They don't want proof Sekhmets Daughter Jun 2012 #3
No. 48% believe that the GOP isn't stifling the recovery...~3% aren't sure. HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #10
One correction Sekhmets Daughter Jun 2012 #2
True. I meant to say his son was those things. McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #4
Perhaps Sekhmets Daughter Jun 2012 #6
Did that make up for the Union soldiers who had their faces blown off McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #7
And how would a complete meltdown have affected their business interests? JHB Jun 2012 #9
It was done to preserve his wealth, a calculated decision. You won't win this argument on DU. DCKit Jun 2012 #13
I think that the Republicans were the good guys back then. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #15
J.P. Morgan's SON and namesake. maddiemom Jun 2012 #26
+1,000. Bookmarking for future reference. K & R. freshwest Jun 2012 #5
A slight correction... the GOP did not intentionaly engineer the beginning of this recession Gman Jun 2012 #8
Yes, they did. Back in 2007 (and before) many, many people predicted the collapse McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #16
No doubt the warning signs were everywhere Gman Jun 2012 #20
I did the same thing in February of 2008 Alcibiades Jun 2012 #28
But Occam's Razor says it was just Republican negligence! Zalatix Jun 2012 #30
Morgan sounds like a British Lord circa 1700 CanonRay Jun 2012 #11
Well argued; well sourced. Top of Greatest. longship Jun 2012 #12
Wish everyone would read this post. nt abelenkpe Jun 2012 #14
K&R. Nice work McCamy. N/T bluesbassman Jun 2012 #17
While I agree with the substance of this post I have a few historical issues: JohnnyHardhat Jun 2012 #18
From Wikipedia re JP Morgan's leveraged sale of defective used rifles to the US as new rifles: AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #34
traitors Angry Dragon Jun 2012 #19
If someone can remember the name of the CEO Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #21
K&R n/t Lugnut Jun 2012 #22
name of Georgia businessman mlhanson Jun 2012 #23
A little irony Alcibiades Jun 2012 #29
Thanks for this: chervilant Jun 2012 #24
k & r thanks for posting...nt Stuart G Jun 2012 #25
The Other Day There Was A Report DallasNE Jun 2012 #27
What are the odds that, after the pending "free-trade" agreement is signed (by whoever), AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #36
A 'must-read.' I recommend that you follow the link to the Harold Ickes speech.... LongTomH Jun 2012 #31
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2012 #32
Well done. Rain Mcloud Jun 2012 #33
BUSH handed ... "the Banksters who stole your home a tax payer funded bailout." AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #35
It's called "The Shock Doctrine." alfredo Jun 2012 #37
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