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Demsrule86

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85. The Democrats did not start any of the wars.

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 08:22 AM

Jul 2016

But what now? Do we abandon the middle easts to Isis or some other radical group? How do we walk away without millions dying there because of George Bush's interference? The entire region is destabilized. It is very difficult to stop wars once they start...and please take a moment to review the video footage of what happened in Vietnam after we left. Millions died, and it was completely our fault. What about those who have helped us in Iraq or Afghanistan-what will happen to them? It is easy to chant meaningless drivel but coming up with a plan...well that is a bit more difficult. Consider that Bill Clinton handled the Ukraine without war and did not invade any country. I think we can expect much the same from Hillary who is not a war hawk despite slander hurled at her. And I don't see how one vote makes Hillary a war monger especially when Kerry and a host of other liberals voted the same way and never had to account for their vote. I think it amounts to an excuse for those who hate Hillary because their candidate lost or who fell right wing propaganda.

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What is a "no more war asshole"? [View all] stone space Jul 2016 OP

Who's "us"? Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #1

Folks opposed to war. (nt) stone space Jul 2016 #3

Oh. I don't think that quote refers to you Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #6

If I had a boom mike, I'd scream it at the top of my lungs. (nt) stone space Jul 2016 #12

I'm sure that would achieve all your goals Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #13

Perhaps silence would be better? (nt) stone space Jul 2016 #14

Pssst...the world is not binary. There are shades of grey. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #23

I've ben told below that GOP delegates didn't voice any opposition to war at their convention. stone space Jul 2016 #25

No. I absolutely believe we should be able to express our disagreements... AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #32

It would have been good had GOP delegates voiced opposition to war. stone space Jul 2016 #33

But, it wasn't good when the protestors chanted last night. blue neen Jul 2016 #115

How have the shades of grey been doing for us? DanM Jul 2016 #71

Was there an anti war march that I missed? AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #98

To what effective and precise end? LanternWaste Jul 2016 #96

Oh hell, some of those people are so out of touch with what's going on its pathetic. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #2

Amazing, isn't it? Hissyspit Jul 2016 #4

People who don't want anymore wars are not assholes. Quite the opposite. demmiblue Jul 2016 #5

+1000000! Sad but not surprising. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2016 #15

..... bigwillq Jul 2016 #18

Oh, they are most definitely assholes of the worst kind. DetlefK Jul 2016 #68

No more war asshole here. tecelote Jul 2016 #84

There are no words to describe how stupid your idea is. DetlefK Jul 2016 #86

Can't be much more stupid than what we have tried and failed so far can it? tecelote Jul 2016 #90

Your proposal is pretty much exactly what has been tried and failed. DetlefK Jul 2016 #93

You know about our occupation right? tecelote Jul 2016 #95

To repeat: DetlefK Jul 2016 #97

Of course, the bull in the china shop ... GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #110

Whom would you ask to clean up the mess the US made? DetlefK Jul 2016 #111

Yes, I'm sure "We're going to stand by and not prevent you from being killed" will win hearts. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #103

Bombing anyone is wrong ymetca Jul 2016 #126

There are those who consider war a business opportunity dflprincess Jul 2016 #7

that comment was utterly appalling.... mike_c Jul 2016 #8

Apparently we have some neocons in the Democratic Party. runaway hero Jul 2016 #9

The asshole part is screaming it at Democratic speakers at our convention. NYC Liberal Jul 2016 #10

There's nothing wrong with screaming "no more war" at any political convention. stone space Jul 2016 #11

why don't they scream it at the repuke party? Skittles Jul 2016 #17

Because they didn't get elected as delegates to the GOP convention? stone space Jul 2016 #19

I MEAN EVER Skittles Jul 2016 #48

Because they weren't Republican delegates? LeftyMom Jul 2016 #20

I MEAN *EVER* Skittles Jul 2016 #49

And the basis of this assumption is what, exactly? LeftyMom Jul 2016 #50

LOL Skittles Jul 2016 #53

But you see, it IS worth the time of the 'no more war assholes.' pangaia Jul 2016 #76

Because Democrats are about as likely to wage war as Republicans? n/t ronnie624 Jul 2016 #21

do you really think Skittles Jul 2016 #54

I doubt that many here question the Afganistan War. Lancero Jul 2016 #56

both were wars of choice Skittles Jul 2016 #125

WTF is Biden talking about here? nationalize the fed Jul 2016 #57

That whole ... theory or whatever it is, the paranoia around those three words- is inane. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #65

No it's "run for Mars" now, dude ymetca Jul 2016 #127

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE SHAMBLING MOUND BEHIND THE CURTAIN Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #128

do you really think under a Dem prez no war wouldn't have started anywhere? DanM Jul 2016 #73

The Democrats did not start any of the wars. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #85

Intervention in the ME began long before ISIS and George Bush. ronnie624 Jul 2016 #109

Actually Democrats did indeed start any of these wars. Glassunion Jul 2016 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #106

It's a whole new DU. stranger81 Jul 2016 #16

Moderate, centrist Democrats (Bill Clinton, Pres Obama, soon Hillary) WIN elections Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #24

"No more war assholes" may not be a majority, but it's good for our voices to be heard. (nt) stone space Jul 2016 #34

I never called anyone a no more war asshole Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #35

Oh, I know. Just sticking with the earlier terminology. stone space Jul 2016 #36

really? Is that why under the centrists we now have a REpuke house and senate? Cobalt Violet Jul 2016 #47

Presidents. House and Senate candidates obviously have to be tailored to the state and district. Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #59

" House and Senate candidates obviously have to be tailored to the state and district." pangaia Jul 2016 #79

Moderate, centrist Democrats (Bill Clinton, Pres Obama, soon Hillary) WIN elections PassingFair Jul 2016 #116

I am not in favour of TTIP and TPP as currently written Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #117

Why do you think she is against it now? PassingFair Jul 2016 #118

I am pragmatic. I prefer centrists who are moderated by the left Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #119

To each his own. PassingFair Jul 2016 #120

FDR was a pragmatist in many ways. Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #121

There are "no more war assholes"? pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #22

I'll stand there with you! Victor_c3 Jul 2016 #94

Warmongers are shitty people. Rex Jul 2016 #129

Yeah, we used to be Peace Creeps in a kinder age Warpy Jul 2016 #26

And Pinkos pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #30

+1,000 malaise Jul 2016 #81

Try not to confuse the reaction of a few people with the Majority DU viewpoint emulatorloo Jul 2016 #27

I think you self-answered the question didnt you? pkdu Jul 2016 #28

I don't think I've answered it, but I'll wear the label proudly, if necessary. stone space Jul 2016 #31

War bankrupts us. Emotionally and financally. avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #29

And for too many of us, physically and mentally pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #37

Definitely and their families too. avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #38

Yes, I saw yui's post--and I've also lost friends that way, including my best friend pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #43

I knew the VA was not up to snuff for out vets on many things...but I didn't think they avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #46

VA health care overall is EXCELLENT! pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #52

Hey man.... A HERETIC I AM Jul 2016 #39

We got a lot of smoke in the AV for a couple days pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #44

Indeed A HERETIC I AM Jul 2016 #51

I remember that about you. I arrived here in 2000. pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #55

+1 merrily Jul 2016 #41

This is new to me. And very serious to me. merrily Jul 2016 #40

I've come to the conclusion that this is just a simple case of out-and-out trolling. stone space Jul 2016 #42

Is DU the only place you've seen the term? merrily Jul 2016 #45

I don't post in many online forums. stone space Jul 2016 #100

Thank you. That is so much more effective than fighting the online war, merrily Jul 2016 #101

It's okay to be against war. I'm against war. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #58

Forget the chaff, enjoy the wheat pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #60

You said it, man. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #63

I think you answered your own question. It is an epithet that The Second Stone Jul 2016 #61

I'd much rather be a "no more war asshole" than a more war asshole. Cobalt Violet Jul 2016 #62

Those "so-called Dems" anoNY42 Jul 2016 #64

Because you don't own the party malaise Jul 2016 #66

The OP is anti war and is speaking of a post that referred to peace seekers as 'no more war Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #91

My bad n/t malaise Jul 2016 #92

I can explain. I have met a bunch of those on DU. DetlefK Jul 2016 #67

But keeping on bombing civilians will not fix the problem either. hobbit709 Jul 2016 #69

Saying that my answer is wrong does not make your answer any right. DetlefK Jul 2016 #70

That works both ways. hobbit709 Jul 2016 #74

Yes, but we already know the consequences of my demand. DetlefK Jul 2016 #78

Speaking of consequences... nationalize the fed Jul 2016 #75

You can clearly see anoNY42 Jul 2016 #77

Please don't try to switch topics and instead answer my question. DetlefK Jul 2016 #82

The outcome of "not bombing ISIS" anoNY42 Jul 2016 #105

Au contraire. "Not bombing ISIS" has been attempted. January to September of 2014. DetlefK Jul 2016 #113

I don't understand why you think the bombing is working. anoNY42 Jul 2016 #114

The "Hate-America-First" people. Odin2005 Jul 2016 #87

They exist too, but they have been around on DU since George W. Bush. DetlefK Jul 2016 #89

Someone who in effect is saying that bad things are bad. randome Jul 2016 #72

Context matters. I think most people here are against war. ecstatic Jul 2016 #80

Members of the CA delegation at the DNC who are having a tantrum. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #83

Because being a crude heckler makes you an asshole and doesn't change people's minds? Odin2005 Jul 2016 #88

I appauld the sentiment ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #99

DU was the first place I ever heard the term "chickenhawk".... actslikeacarrot Jul 2016 #102

If someone makes a generalization and you think it applies to you, that's on you. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #104

Would those who deride "no more war assholes" be willing for their kids to be drafted? raccoon Jul 2016 #107

I prefer "No More War, Assholes" Nevernose Jul 2016 #108

Anyone who believes that all wars are wrong, as opposed to most. Donald Ian Rankin Jul 2016 #122

I'd imagine it refers to someone who criticizes a problem, yet offers no solution... LanternWaste Jul 2016 #123

We've been at war since the fucking 80's. Isn't it time to end this madness? Initech Jul 2016 #124