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MrScorpio

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Thu Jul 28, 2016, 09:48 AM Jul 2016

A Republican intellectual explains why the Republican Party is going to die [View all]

Updated by Zack Beauchamp on July 25, 2016, 8:50 a.m. ET

CLEVELAND — Avik Roy is a Republican’s Republican. A health care wonk and editor at Forbes, he has worked for three Republican presidential hopefuls — Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, and Marco Rubio. Much of his adult life has been dedicated to advancing the Republican Party and conservative ideals.

But when I caught up with Roy at a bar just outside the Republican convention, he said something I’ve never heard from an establishment conservative before: The Grand Old Party is going to die.

“I don’t think the Republican Party and the conservative movement are capable of reforming themselves in an incremental and gradual way,” he said. “There’s going to be a disruption.”

Roy isn’t happy about this: He believes it means the Democrats will dominate national American politics for some time. But he also believes the Republican Party has lost its right to govern, because it is driven by white nationalism rather than a true commitment to equality for all Americans.

“Until the conservative movement can stand up and live by that principle, it will not have the moral authority to lead the country,” he told me.

This is a standard assessment among liberals, but it is frankly shocking to hear from a prominent conservative thinker. Our conversation had the air of a confessional: of Roy admitting that he and his intellectual comrades had gone wrong, had failed, had sinned.

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12256510/republican-party-trump-avik-roy
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Another of that endangered species - the sane Republican. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #1
But they aren't really sane ToxMarz Jul 2016 #21
good riddance. unblock Jul 2016 #2
The said the same thing after Bush when we swept both Exilednight Jul 2016 #5
The GOP brand Kyblue1 Jul 2016 #23
Agree... the party is going nowhere berksdem Jul 2016 #16
there's a constructive role for a party that's skeptical about government and its ability geek tragedy Jul 2016 #3
A truly insightful and awesome comment that boils it down. Sincere KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #6
. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #7
Very well said, geek tragedy. brer cat Jul 2016 #8
+1 treestar Jul 2016 #9
Thanks, geek. We really need to keep that perspective in mind. Hekate Jul 2016 #15
Too many GOOD people just assume "it can't happen here"... Raster Jul 2016 #18
It can happen Kyblue1 Jul 2016 #24
Trump/Pence scares the shit out of me. American life as we know it would change --DRAMATICALLY--... Raster Jul 2016 #30
Clear, succinct, incisive. Journal-worthy. +1 . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #19
I state the same thing differently Ellen Forradalom Jul 2016 #25
It's a problem winetourdriver Jul 2016 #4
I am a firm believer in having an "Honest Opposition" simply to prevent massive corruption KittyWampus Jul 2016 #13
It's a double bind for the GOP. forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #10
Nice post. Well stated summation. KittyWampus Jul 2016 #12
When a party has spent decades using the "Southern Strategy" and it's thinly veiled KittyWampus Jul 2016 #11
Republican intellectual is an oxymoron, but we do have a two party system. Some version FSogol Jul 2016 #14
don't worry--the Dems we get in office are really more like Republicans librechik Jul 2016 #17
+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Jul 2016 #20
To follow this premise forward, what would it look like if a Susan Collins moderate lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #22
Eight years from now there will be no republican party. Blue Idaho Jul 2016 #26
They only have themselves to blame. DCBob Jul 2016 #27
Historically, when one party dies, the surviving party splits into a left-wing and a right-wing. Binkie The Clown Jul 2016 #28
If you count JPR, it kinda already has happened. (Although it happened before with GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #35
If they continue to make their main platform hatred, discrimination and screwing over RKP5637 Jul 2016 #29
I think that the key donco Jul 2016 #31
Not hardly hibbing Jul 2016 #32
I agree. This thread is full of wishful thinking. Jim Lane Jul 2016 #37
Some Confession 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #33
Yep. Pisses me off that the righties won't admit to creating this mess! GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #36
Its been in the making for more than 30 years. procon Jul 2016 #34
these repukes crack me up Skittles Jul 2016 #38
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