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Uponthegears

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79. Message to the Brown haters

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:13 PM

Jul 2016

Y'all keep screaming "read the Justice Department report." Let's me suggest something else. Read the transcripts of the witness interviews, read the transcripts of the grand jury presentation by the racist DA. At one point the Post Dispatch had them on line. Read them without looking for a reason to disbelieve Dorian Johnson. Read them without looking for a reason to disbelieve the "hands up" witnesses. Read them like a black person living in Ferguson and taking crud off of the cops every single day reads them. Read them with the eyes of the victims of systemic racism. Quit reading them with the eyes of privilege OR the eyes of someone who doesn't want to offend the privileged right before an election.

You'd be on the streets too.

BLACK LIVES MATTER

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This is not how I remember the micheal brown shooting. From wiki [View all] Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 OP

You are correct. mainstreetonce Jul 2016 #1

The Brown shooting isn't a good example of unnecessary police violence... pipoman Jul 2016 #2

I'm saying that wiki is trying to edit history Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #3

"Wikipedia" didn't write it, users did... JHB Aug 2016 #126

Blasting an unarmed person 12 times seems pretty representative to me of police violence brush Jul 2016 #5

See 9 pipoman Jul 2016 #10

Look up what unarmed means. Also while you're at it look up how the cop in North Charleston also . . brush Jul 2016 #12

When someone charges a cop who is armed pipoman Jul 2016 #13

Then maybe police ought to stop carrying then Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #17

Or maybe you shouldn't side with people who try to kill cops. pipoman Jul 2016 #25

You believe the cop. I don't. We've all seen videos that have proved many cops lie to cover. . . brush Jul 2016 #61

He didn't seem to have a great track record of quality decision making... TipTok Jul 2016 #62

The same guy who would do this.... pipoman Jul 2016 #63

Wilson knew nothing of the convenience store incident when he killed Brown brush Jul 2016 #66

Obama's Justice Department says otherwise. pipoman Jul 2016 #70

The white guy construction workers said he had his hands up and cop kept shooting brush Jul 2016 #71

"Nobody"...wrong pipoman Jul 2016 #73

Of course you would take the word of the cop. He's the only one who said Brown charged into . . . brush Jul 2016 #95

I take the word of the Justice Department pipoman Jul 2016 #96

"Lot of lying was going on to that grand jury" pintobean Jul 2016 #100

Witnesses vs. Whitewash Uponthegears Jul 2016 #105

From the DOJ report pintobean Jul 2016 #116

Please do not apologize for the disjointed C&P Uponthegears Jul 2016 #117

tl;dr dc pintobean Jul 2016 #118

Facts are like that Uponthegears Jul 2016 #119

You don't offend me. pintobean Jul 2016 #120

There is only one reason people Uponthegears Jul 2016 #121

It was a coded message pintobean Jul 2016 #122

Oh my Uponthegears Jul 2016 #123

Lol. No, I'm done. pintobean Jul 2016 #124

Well said, well reasoned post. The cop apologists here probably won't give it credence . . . brush Aug 2016 #131

100% rgbecker Aug 2016 #152

The autopsy showed that his hands were down Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #127

The autopsy doesn't, and can't possibly show that his hands were down . . . brush Aug 2016 #132

True, it only showed that his hands were down when he was shot. Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #146

Which shots? Uponthegears Aug 2016 #147

Yes, shot while UNAMRED. brush Aug 2016 #149

Yep Uponthegears Aug 2016 #150

Felon?....do go on... pkdu Jul 2016 #77

He did charge towards Wilson. Its in the DOJ investigation. n/t Waldorf Jul 2016 #30

And you believe someone charged into 12 live bullets? brush Jul 2016 #67

Oh do go on, is it cause he was one of those hepped up super black men the police fear so much? CBGLuthier Jul 2016 #6

He charged a cop... pipoman Jul 2016 #9

The murderer knew nothing of the robbery at the time of the confrontation Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #16

No they aren't. So you think a badge = superman? pipoman Jul 2016 #23

Seems rather obvious you don't know what police brutality is. Rex Jul 2016 #24

Tell me after you have copped for 5 minutes. pipoman Jul 2016 #27

Wrong. Rex Jul 2016 #31

Every cop is trained to protect their weapon with deadly force. pipoman Jul 2016 #34

We've seen many examples of white people doing to cops things that would have gotten a black man kil Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #41

Twice as many whites are shot by police than blacks...fact. pipoman Jul 2016 #48

Um , wouldn't use that "fact" even if the math is correct as there is an inherent problem in it pkdu Jul 2016 #78

It is about the same rate as commission of murder by race... pipoman Jul 2016 #83

You seem to having trouble making a point? or are you just throwing out a list of unrelated data pkdu Jul 2016 #88

I can't help it if you can't understand...it really is simple. pipoman Jul 2016 #91

Dylan Roof was calmly brought into police custody after killing nine people during a prayer service Ohioblue22 Aug 2016 #158

My purpose for posting this was in no way about police Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #29

This case was the proverbial straw on the issue of unpunished pipoman Jul 2016 #35

The Brown case was not legitimate use of force. brush Jul 2016 #68

This guy would.... pipoman Jul 2016 #69

The guy was unarmed. The cop didn't know about the convenience store incident yet still gunned . . . brush Jul 2016 #72

"Unarmed" no...he was armed with legs and arms and a desire to disarm a cop pipoman Jul 2016 #74

There you go leaving out important details. brush Jul 2016 #94

So you believe his criminal counterpart over Obama's Justice Department....got it pipoman Jul 2016 #97

Let's see, eyewitness vs. Uponthegears Jul 2016 #102

Eyewitness = most unreliable form of evidence pipoman Jul 2016 #107

Okay, so if eyewitnesses are incredible Uponthegears Jul 2016 #108

No, my preference is body cams on every officer.... pipoman Jul 2016 #110

Much like Trayvon was "armed" with the sidewalk Ohioblue22 Aug 2016 #141

Again, false; the dispatcher alerted the "seating in progress", with descriptions, well before (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #56

See post 20 below...the Justice Department disagrees and actually has evidence to the contrary pipoman Jul 2016 #92

I think you meant to post this to someone else, because you're agreeing with me LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #93

..... pipoman Jul 2016 #98

I know exactly how you feel (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #99

Why would anyone charge a cop who has his gun drawn? killbotfactory Jul 2016 #84

Why would anyone bully and terrorize a store owner over a box of blunts? pipoman Jul 2016 #85

because a couple dollars worth of blunts are trivial compared to your life? nt killbotfactory Jul 2016 #86

No...poor judgement...many times....in rapid succession... pipoman Jul 2016 #87

So he was running away, stopped, turned around and charged at a cop with a gun drawn? killbotfactory Jul 2016 #89

Read the Obama DoJ report...it is comprehensive... pipoman Jul 2016 #90

Fuck that piece of shit murdering cop. JTFrog Jul 2016 #101

Barack Obama's Justice Department pipoman Jul 2016 #104

Fuck that piece of shit murdering pig. JTFrog Jul 2016 #113

Funny that we trusted them when they cleared Hillary ripcord Aug 2016 #144

Thanks for the revealing post Uponthegears Aug 2016 #148

No, I don't think you're wrong, I've read that more than once, too. marble falls Jul 2016 #4

Allow me to propose another scenario Uponthegears Jul 2016 #7

(no one in their right mind is claiming that Wilson knew about the convenience store incident until Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #14

Just amazing Uponthegears Jul 2016 #18

On the contrary...the JD investigation reported Wilson was aware of the robbery BEFORE he stopped True Earthling Jul 2016 #26

The Justice Department disagrees with you. hack89 Jul 2016 #32

The DOJ is only right when they agree with us ripcord Jul 2016 #37

That's one cute and clever reply Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #58

The Wiki page references the Justice Department investigation. hack89 Jul 2016 #59

False; the dispatcher alerted the "steaing in progress" at 11:53 am (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #55

Wikipedia is open to anyone to edit. malthaussen Jul 2016 #8

I know so I registered as an editor and changed it Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #15

^5 Uponthegears Jul 2016 #19

It'll be reverted. Igel Jul 2016 #20

Which is why wiki cannot ever be a reliable source Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #21

The sources cited can be mythology Jul 2016 #64

Not how I remember it either. gollygee Jul 2016 #11

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #125

Did you read the citations noted in the Wiki? True Earthling Jul 2016 #22

If he knew about the robbery he would have tried to arrest them Them instead of just telling them to Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #40

Ask the Obama JD...are you pretending they didn't investigate? pipoman Jul 2016 #47

+1 Vattel Aug 2016 #159

The same doj that couldn't find anything actionable with the fraud committed by the banksters Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #43

Wiki reflects what the Justice Department investigation found. hack89 Jul 2016 #28

If he knew about the robbery he would have tried to arrest them Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #39

I suggest you find and read the Justice Department investigation hack89 Jul 2016 #46

Oh I'm sure what they call the facts back up the conclusion Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #50

So President Obama directed the Attorney General to cover up a murder? hack89 Jul 2016 #54

The lengths we will go PrideofJefferson Jul 2016 #80

Opinion sites are worth as much as the people posting their opinions about events. Rex Jul 2016 #33

You don't trust the Obama Justice Department? pipoman Jul 2016 #36

Is Wiki the JD? Rex Jul 2016 #38

Almost the entire wiki entry is from the Obama JD report... pipoman Jul 2016 #44

The Obama doj let the banksters walk, trust only goes so far. Strangely the u.s. Couldn't find Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #42

Other countries were investigating Ferguson? pipoman Jul 2016 #45

What do you think Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #49

That they weren't. Throd Jul 2016 #57

What do I think? I think idiots and fools think they did... pipoman Jul 2016 #60

The information in the OP is consistent with the Justice Department findings. Trust Buster Jul 2016 #51

Because you remember the media and activist narrative that spread wildly right after Lee-Lee Jul 2016 #52

I've always thought this particular case didn't deserve as much attention as some others. Lil Missy Jul 2016 #53

More context loyalsister Jul 2016 #65

You were listening to the same hype that sparked the awful riots. Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2016 #75

You are NOT wrong. You are 100 percent correct. BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #76

Message to the Brown haters Uponthegears Jul 2016 #79

I am trying to understand PrideofJefferson Aug 2016 #129

how could you remember what happened? Enrique Jul 2016 #81

Exactly; one of the points of the BLM manifesto is "Independently investigate and prosecute police LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #109

A grand jury investigation TeddyR Jul 2016 #82

Ackkk this post is infested by Fuzz Boxerfan Jul 2016 #103

It seems to be the opposite effect imo, people are reading what they type and realize Rex Jul 2016 #112

It's fucking disgusting and pathetic. nt JTFrog Jul 2016 #114

You are correct. But whatever happened, there was no excuse to shoot Brown that many times. Hoyt Jul 2016 #106

Well it doesn't help that the city PD was holding the entire population of POC economic Rex Jul 2016 #111

From 'minimum force' to 'Unleashing the Warrior Spirit' kristopher Jul 2016 #115

All well and good, but shooting 12 times at an unarmed, fleeing man . . . brush Aug 2016 #133

You may have missed my point. kristopher Aug 2016 #134

Sorry if I did, but what was it? brush Aug 2016 #135

I don't think I can make it more clear. kristopher Aug 2016 #136

Benghazi! PrideofJefferson Aug 2016 #128

Maybe because your seeing what you want to see Ohioblue22 Aug 2016 #137

I wasn't there PrideofJefferson Aug 2016 #142

I wasn't there. That's cute Ohioblue22 Aug 2016 #143

What's cute about that PrideofJefferson Aug 2016 #145

No I wasn't there either sorry you don't understand my point Ohioblue22 Aug 2016 #155

My goodness PrideofJefferson Aug 2016 #157

you lost that one Skittles Aug 2016 #151

Lost? I didn't realize this was a game Ohioblue22 Aug 2016 #153

LOLOL Skittles Aug 2016 #154

Ok you win?I congrats Ohioblue22 Aug 2016 #156

Wiki article, for reference steve2470 Aug 2016 #130

While I thank you for the heads-up on that was it really that hard to find? Ohioblue22 Aug 2016 #138

no, just a courtesy request, that's all nt steve2470 Aug 2016 #139

Ok thanks... I'll keep it in mind Ohioblue22 Aug 2016 #140