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BainsBane

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73. I've said it before

Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:00 PM

Aug 2016

and I'll say it again. Their contempt for Clinton and the Democratic Party is because of its representation and inclusion of women and people of color. That is why they are voting for or otherwise helping Trump get elected. They want America to be white and male again.

NO ONE who wants Trump to win over Clinton is anything but a reactionary, piece of shit racist. That goes especially for those pretending to be "progressive," when in fact they couldn't be more regressive.

If it were a matter of promoting policies Bernie advanced, there would be no hesitation to support Clinton. Their support of Trump and/or third party ratfuckers is because they want to punish Democratic voters for refusing to elevate their racial and gender privilege over our insignificant rights.

This is the single most despicable group of people in the history of American politics. Period. They don't even have the integrity to admit they are white male supremacists. That would require a level of honesty they are incapable of.

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Jackpine Radicals DEMONIZES Black Lives Matter [View all] bravenak Aug 2016 OP

Then don't go there? NightWatcher Aug 2016 #1

I'll do what i want to do. bravenak Aug 2016 #2

Not being bossy, but I don't like the site so I avoid it. NightWatcher Aug 2016 #3

Recommended. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #4

Black folks have to inform themselves or else bravenak Aug 2016 #12

I know that's right rbrnmw Aug 2016 #31

People act like they dont know bravenak Aug 2016 #35

yeah cause they don't have to worry about who has the knives to their backs rbrnmw Aug 2016 #46

That site is fixated on Hillary Clinton Gothmog Aug 2016 #204

Is the poster, Madhound, the head of JPR or authorized to speak for it? Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #234

I am not sure he is the head of anything. But he sure got recs. bravenak Aug 2016 #247

AMEN! nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #61

Reading JPR is informing yourself? About what? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2016 #86

Gotta agree with you there. cwydro Aug 2016 #203

I think some old opponents fled there in defeat Hortensis Aug 2016 #253

My father was very Liberal yet Chevy Aug 2016 #97

2 Georgia State students kicked out of Hillary Clinton rally for 'Black Lives Matter' sign Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #180

So, something that happened in February excuses everything they say or do now? bravenak Aug 2016 #192

I'm not excusing anything that is racist Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #199

Thank you Omaha Steve saidsimplesimon Aug 2016 #263

"Black folks need to inform themselves?" Nonsense! Orrex Aug 2016 #201

I know, right bravenak Aug 2016 #246

Know your enemy. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #21

^THIS^ SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #64

Indeed wysi Aug 2016 #76

Yup! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #81

Then be prepared to get yourself irritated. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2016 #7

Because drama. n/t demmiblue Aug 2016 #10

^THIS^ Turn CO Blue Aug 2016 #13

Heh. (n/t) SMC22307 Aug 2016 #111

Double this ^^ chwaliszewski Aug 2016 #124

No, to promote tolerance. lovemydog Aug 2016 #182

+1 jack_krass Aug 2016 #239

Because words can have consequences. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #66

Probably because these are the same creeps that KMOD Aug 2016 #67

Yup. zappaman Aug 2016 #94

Yes, because the SAME CREEPS. betsuni Aug 2016 #123

I like that they have their very own place. KMOD Aug 2016 #142

Well done, my girl! NanceGreggs Aug 2016 #177

Why go there? Texasgal Aug 2016 #5

Because bravenak Aug 2016 #18

Okay? Texasgal Aug 2016 #24

Know your enemy. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #72

Isn't "rant and rave" Lilith Rising Aug 2016 #83

Oh good gawd! Texasgal Aug 2016 #112

No. Juust saying that Trump Lilith Rising Aug 2016 #121

"Rant and rave." SMC22307 Aug 2016 #173

why are you so worried about other ppl on another site G_j Aug 2016 #6

Why are you worried about what I'm worried about rather than getting Hillary elected? bravenak Aug 2016 #16

Probably because you posted about it. nt Gore1FL Aug 2016 #40

I respect you G_j KMOD Aug 2016 #80

I am pretty amazed at the extent that some people G_j Aug 2016 #170

Well, perhaps it's because I do hold a grudge of some sort. KMOD Aug 2016 #174

it's all too much for me to keep track of G_j Aug 2016 #176

Or perhaps you weren't persecuted, KMOD Aug 2016 #178

no I haven't been G_j Aug 2016 #179

Yeah it is silly, I have decided to ignore those causing all the drama. Rex Aug 2016 #273

Good for you - we all know you were stalked and harassed, as were others. You were NEVER.... George II Dec 2016 #296

that's what right wing bigots do JI7 Aug 2016 #8

I know. They just make me sick today. bravenak Aug 2016 #14

So does DU. demmiblue Aug 2016 #9

That is horrible bravenak Aug 2016 #17

Yeah, also were called thugs and accused of extortion here Bradical79 Aug 2016 #281

Sounds to me like right-wing trolls are ratfucking the site. backscatter712 Aug 2016 #11

I do not equate that site with being a Bernie site bravenak Aug 2016 #15

The admins on that site sheshe2 Aug 2016 #25

Yep. It is their fault that it got this way bravenak Aug 2016 #27

One admin said it was okay to CALL HILL THE C WORD.... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #37

Yep. I noticed the hatred of women there. Sick sick sick bravenak Aug 2016 #43

Fuck them! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #48

They are jealous bravenak Aug 2016 #56

jealous assholes! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #58

Of course. They're just whooping it up over what a great idea Dead Woman Card is. kcr Aug 2016 #151

Link please. Scuba Aug 2016 #193

So disgusting, I gotta have another look! Even the link dissolved!! Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #235

That's right. kcr Aug 2016 #242

Who is Madhound? He in charge of JPR? Authorized to speak for them?.... Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #245

Okay, no snark this time. I'm asking this in all seriousness. kcr Aug 2016 #255

Point: His view doesn't necessarily imply an endorsement from the site where posted. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #259

I don't belong to the site... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #237

Here. I found a long and interesting thread on the topic. There's some reasoned opinions within. Scuba Aug 2016 #240

And there it is kcr Aug 2016 #243

Not the one I was thinking of... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #284

They did? SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #89

You would have to go look. But dont. It's mean. bravenak Aug 2016 #104

Yes they are. KMOD Aug 2016 #77

No surprise. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2016 #19

I am not ever surprised anymore bravenak Aug 2016 #23

15 post dimwit Warpy Aug 2016 #20

They might need a mirt bravenak Aug 2016 #22

The inmates are in charge there. There is no pivoting away from crazy and racist nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #33

This is the last time I bother even looking bravenak Aug 2016 #47

Best just to stay out of that cess pool, unless... Adrahil Aug 2016 #26

I just hope they feel embarassed and knock it off. bravenak Aug 2016 #28

You hope in vain, I'm afraid. Adrahil Aug 2016 #34

That is sad bravenak Aug 2016 #38

Don't argue with idiots and crazy people. Folks The Second Stone Aug 2016 #29

You are RIGHT bravenak Aug 2016 #30

As always, but especially on this one The Second Stone Aug 2016 #39

The Trumpkins and special snowflakes there aren't worth OPs here. nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #32

I know. They really get on my nerves though bravenak Aug 2016 #41

They are racists and wingnuts and crazy people. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #45

I'm fine with identifying racism here or elsewhere (JPR, Disc'nist, etc.). Surprised anyone objects. Hoyt Aug 2016 #36

I'm not surprised they object. bravenak Aug 2016 #42

Some people on this site are anti-semetic. panader0 Aug 2016 #44

I remain convinced, or at least hopeful SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #54

OMG Brave. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #49

Hey. It was nice to see you, even if very briefly bravenak Aug 2016 #51

I'll do what my old, tired nerves allow, SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #57

I Know how you feel bravenak Aug 2016 #63

Disgusting bluestateguy Aug 2016 #50

No surprise. Those folks are openly hostile to black people. nt Cali_Democrat Aug 2016 #52

Hate us with a PURPLE PASSION bravenak Aug 2016 #53

why do you pay any attention to them? Skittles Aug 2016 #55

Because what they spew might have consequences. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #59

I live in Texas Skittles Aug 2016 #68

I agree with the f them. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #70

go there then Skittles Aug 2016 #71

I don't go there, I go here. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #74

whatever floats your boat Skittles Aug 2016 #75

Same here. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #79

Anti black attitudes are a physical danger to my person bravenak Aug 2016 #60

Not alone, hopefully. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #69

Thank you bravenak Aug 2016 #103

Don't go there anymore. Iggo Aug 2016 #62

I just said upthread that this was my last visit bravenak Aug 2016 #65

not sure why they do it Skittles Aug 2016 #78

I've said it before BainsBane Aug 2016 #73

+++++++ KMOD Aug 2016 #82

Well said. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #84

Hear, hear. Ellen Forradalom Aug 2016 #90

Absolutely. They are nasty and deceptive bravenak Aug 2016 #106

+1 Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #109

^^^^THIS!!!^^^^ is a MUST READ. Thank you for that post! nt AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #134

OT, but is your user name the character in "The Birdcage"? betsuni Aug 2016 #139

yes it is. It is one of my favorite movies. I chose it because I love humor and it was so freaking AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #143

I watched it again the other night and it never gets old! betsuni Aug 2016 #144

I have watched it a million times and I agree, it is a classic. Never gets old. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #149

Ahahaha! Bradical79 Aug 2016 #282

I LOVE that scene! Nathan Lane is just amazing. Thanks for the video post. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #290

Agreed Gothmog Aug 2016 #205

That's interesting... OneGrassRoot Aug 2016 #221

Since Bernie isn't a candidate anymore BainsBane Aug 2016 #225

Excellent points. OneGrassRoot Aug 2016 #230

Dont You Think It's Time To Focus On Trump Instead? billhicks76 Aug 2016 #85

Thank you. roamer65 Aug 2016 #88

dup Skittles Aug 2016 #92

Some On DU Are Intent On Dividing Everyone billhicks76 Aug 2016 #98

Only worthwhile comment on the thread so far. Scuba Aug 2016 #195

^^^THIS^^^ Skittles Aug 2016 #93

That's exactly what conservative groups want. KMOD Aug 2016 #95

Putins Paid Trolls n/t Chevy Aug 2016 #100

Some...And Paid Trolls From Every Interest Group There Is billhicks76 Aug 2016 #102

I Dont Know What JPR Is billhicks76 Aug 2016 #101

I don't look for racists. I look for ignorant and racially tone-deaf folks, KMOD Aug 2016 #110

I have to wonder why this shit is allowed melman Aug 2016 #114

Curious, what suggests to you that DU rules would 'forbid it?' emulatorloo Aug 2016 #251

right here melman Aug 2016 #256

BLM isnt a losing or winning primary candidate. It is a movement that transcends all that. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #261

It has been established that some people here are, self-admittingly, trolling DU. demmiblue Aug 2016 #117

They have a following melman Aug 2016 #128

Don't you think it's a bit of a concern forjusticethunders Aug 2016 #120

Haven't Witnessed Yet Myself billhicks76 Aug 2016 #181

Someone is still smarting over Seattle... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #155

I'm amused by the members of that club. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #87

Hey. I try to read her posts but it is becomming harder and harder to decipher what she is trying to bravenak Aug 2016 #107

That one was always saying farewell The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #126

I remember her endless gbcws bravenak Aug 2016 #133

Makes me realize just how long I have been at this site. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #136

I can imagine. The more they hate on them the stronger my conviction to vote for her is bravenak Aug 2016 #137

I don't know which was worse 2008 or this year. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #140

Me too. bravenak Aug 2016 #141

I used to like, SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #291

Me too. I feel the same way bravenak Aug 2016 #292

Thanks, brave. Signing out again. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #295

so did DU when BLM protested Hillary. nt retrowire Aug 2016 #91

Lol the place is getting trolled, many posting w the same style as Hillary's biggest DUers Arazi Aug 2016 #96

Clicked on the link. Jakes Progress Aug 2016 #99

I really used to like a lot of them. Sad bravenak Aug 2016 #105

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #156

I think every poster at JPR managed to earn their reputation, msanthrope Aug 2016 #175

I'm a poster at JPR. What's my reputation? Violet_Crumble Aug 2016 #200

Tell me exactly what it is you disagree with? msanthrope Aug 2016 #202

"These aren�t white issues, or black issues, they are human issues." SMC22307 Aug 2016 #108

Yeah, Bernie said he would give them 15 dollar an hour in order KMOD Aug 2016 #116

Wrong. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #125

No, it's not funny at all. KMOD Aug 2016 #129

That their demands mirror much of Bernie's platform... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #132

Black voters are not monolithic KMOD Aug 2016 #138

Neither are participants on JPR. Or DU, for that matter. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #146

I can't help what the ignorant elitists choose to do. KMOD Aug 2016 #150

LOL! Congrats, you've fully embraced right-wing framing... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #153

I did discuss it. KMOD Aug 2016 #157

Parallels between BLM demands and Sanders campaign. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #162

Hillary Clinton addresses many of their wishes as well. KMOD Aug 2016 #166

She was also there for the Iraq War vote, SMC22307 Aug 2016 #210

She was also a Senator in New York after 9/11, but her phony detractors refuse R B Garr Aug 2016 #212

Oh FFS, I'm so sick and tired of this phony and dishonest superiority complex. R B Garr Aug 2016 #208

Take two aspirin and get some rest. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #211

This is the typical personal attack we've grown accustomed to from the losing campaign. R B Garr Aug 2016 #213

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #189

The primary is over dude. cwydro Aug 2016 #206

"there is a reason he did not resonate with minorities and women" Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #214

The correct info is that the election results supersede speculative articles from April. R B Garr Aug 2016 #215

Age gap cuts into Clinton�s support among female voters Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #218

LOL, I don't need a link to the election results. They are all over the internet and R B Garr Aug 2016 #219

So why on earth did you bother to waste your time on my reply at all? Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #222

You posted about younger voters. It's only part of the story. The rest of the R B Garr Aug 2016 #223

Another group trying to claim that they are the... TipTok Aug 2016 #118

Are their policy points not valid? SMC22307 Aug 2016 #127

They certainly match... TipTok Aug 2016 #158

ugh Person 2713 Aug 2016 #228

All one has to do to disperse a jackpineradical gathering... Tarc Aug 2016 #113

LOL bravenak Aug 2016 #115

Are you gainfully employed? (n/t) SMC22307 Aug 2016 #130

You're not going to convince us liberals to go into a snake pit like jack pine kimbutgar Aug 2016 #119

Good. I saw it. It was nasty. Don't go!!!! bravenak Aug 2016 #122

The site is designed to fail. JohnnyRingo Aug 2016 #131

You might be right about it being a troll testing the limits bravenak Aug 2016 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #185

I was over having a laugh in another thread about what crackpots they are, but kcr Aug 2016 #145

Crackpots, yep bravenak Aug 2016 #148

I read the OP; I think you're simplifying and overgeneralizing elias7 Aug 2016 #147

Close to 150 replies and zero discussion about BLM's platform... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #152

That's right kcr Aug 2016 #154

"Dead Woman Card carrying hate site members and the crazy things they say" SMC22307 Aug 2016 #160

Why are you doing that? kcr Aug 2016 #161

Please decipher the word salad above. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #164

I don't know. Go to the website and ask the person kcr Aug 2016 #165

BLM is referenced in the OP. Why wouldn't it be discussed? SMC22307 Aug 2016 #168

In the context of the JPer demonizing BLM, sure. kcr Aug 2016 #169

The link provided in the OP is hardly an "attack." SMC22307 Aug 2016 #171

Well, obviously, you have a very different definition of attack than I do. kcr Aug 2016 #172

Inappropriately as well as Over-used internet and phrase #98 --"Word Salad" ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #217

This OP isn't about the issues Arazi Aug 2016 #163

That's abundantly clear. Name-calling and callouts... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #167

Here's some of BLM's platform: lovemydog Aug 2016 #186

Reasonable? KMOD Aug 2016 #159

That thread reminds me of the Stockholm syndrome lovemydog Aug 2016 #194

They aren't progressive BainsBane Aug 2016 #220

Good riddance lovemydog Aug 2016 #183

I'm kinda glad they have their own place now. bravenak Aug 2016 #191

Me too. lovemydog Aug 2016 #196

I know, the cycle is hilarious bravenak Aug 2016 #198

Why don't you make an account over there and tell them what you think? redgreenandblue Aug 2016 #184

Ew bravenak Aug 2016 #187

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #188

It really is pathetic bravenak Aug 2016 #190

Agree with you on everything lovemydog Aug 2016 #197

there's no demonisation in the extract you posted n/t PaulaFarrell Aug 2016 #207

I didn't quite get that either G_j Aug 2016 #238

Years ago here, a homeless member of DU contacted me, requesting closeupready Aug 2016 #209

Interesting ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #224

I presume that means you are no longer homeless, and if so, closeupready Aug 2016 #236

Not for many years ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #257

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2016 #278

Not surprised ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #216

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #226

Just holding feet to the fire. nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #227

"Snitches"??? ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #233

Well it did get a bit fucking ridiculous with all the accusing Sanders supporters of being racists. CBGLuthier Aug 2016 #229

Thosexare not fucking Sanders supporters. Those people hate Sanders now. I must defend him! bravenak Aug 2016 #249

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #231

Drama! Egnever Aug 2016 #232

Sure are a lot of people sensitive about what you post. Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #241

Sensitive? melman Aug 2016 #244

Funny thing... They could ignore me but instead they RACE to post on my ops. Funny how important bravenak Aug 2016 #250

Gotta figure out how to monetize that bravenak. fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #254

Oh hell yeah! Get PAID!!! bravenak Aug 2016 #264

I think JustAnotherGen said $500 per post! LOL fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #274

Ohhhh!!! They owe me moooney!! bravenak Aug 2016 #280

Many of us enjoy her posts. Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #270

There sure are. bravenak Aug 2016 #248

How dare you hold up that mirror to white America!!!!!!!!!! guillaumeb Aug 2016 #252

It stresses me out a bit to know how badly they take me criticising bigots bravenak Aug 2016 #266

I agree that those BLM activists who supported Hillary made a mistake. Vattel Aug 2016 #258

let's face it G_j Aug 2016 #260

You don't get to decide what is best for them ir a 'mistake'. Decide for yourself. bravenak Aug 2016 #267

I think that the black lives matter activists who voted for Sanders made the right choice, Vattel Aug 2016 #272

Thats none of your business. bravenak Aug 2016 #279

Sure it is. I can have opinions about who people should vote for. Vattel Aug 2016 #283

You can. And we can tell you it is none of your business. bravenak Aug 2016 #285

and you'd be mistaken Vattel Aug 2016 #286

You would be bravenak Aug 2016 #287

By the way, I think you would be making a mistake if you voted for Trump. Vattel Aug 2016 #288

I dont need to know all of your thoughts about Trump. My voting for him would NEVER be considered. bravenak Aug 2016 #289

Troll ID is in the eyes of the beholder. saidsimplesimon Aug 2016 #262

What the hell does this EVEN MEAN? bravenak Aug 2016 #265

The dozens ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #268

Oh I see. Funny that it must be discussed while discussing anti black attitudes bravenak Aug 2016 #269

Yup ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #271

Jackpine Radical would be laughing his ass off right now... If he wasn't dead Ellipsis Aug 2016 #275

I knew Jackpine Radical. Jackpine Radical was a good man. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #276

A fellow 'Sconi who was indeed a kind man. It saddens me all the way around. Ellipsis Aug 2016 #277

Thanks for the link!, lots good discussion there, and many former DUers! jack_krass Aug 2016 #293

Hope you enjoy it enough to become a regular poster there! bravenak Aug 2016 #294