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Igel

(37,548 posts)
41. This is mostly just screwed up.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:45 AM
Aug 2016

In all sorts of ways.

Your tax dollars don't go to support racist speech, as suggested up thread. The electromagnetic spectrum is just the set of frequencies that can be used. The government regulates who can broadcast at certain frequences in the radio spectrum, how much drift their signal can have, how closely they're spaced in terms of frequency and geography. That's about it. It doesn't regulate content, and it doesn't charge for use of the spectrum.

It regulates the airwaves in that sense by selling or otherwise granting the right to use certain frequencies. The government granted permission freely for a long time--it was like granting title to federal lands if you used the land. Now the licenses are traded on the open market. Frequency rights with large ranges are very expensive in large urban areas. The broadcast equipment is owned by the broadcasters, who have to have it inspected. The government still lets you broadcast for free if you use unclaimed frequencies at low wattage. When my high school set up its radio station it was fairly simple. It applied for a bit of the spectrum, call letters, got both, and started to broadcast.

The AM spectrum was parceled out in the same way but it's cheaper to get a license because, well, it's less suited to music. Not the same level of fidelity, and it doesn't do stereo. There's less competition.

But the same spectrum that broadcasts Limbaugh also broadcasts, in my area, Vietnamese and Chinese channels. There are numerous Spanish-language channels, mostly Mexican-oriented but not always. There's an Africa-centered tv station (it's digital, so it's a stack of "channels&quot , and it's certainly not kind to whites. As bad as Limbaugh? Dunno--I don't listen to either and find both beyond the pale. But both should be allowed to bid as long as they meet content-neutral requirements. They have to serve a portion of the public (not a majority, and nobody gets a real veto), they have to have so much local programming, they have to have so much educational programming for kids, I think (at least they used to).

The population pretty much votes on how the spectrum gets used. The grunge station I liked in Los Angeles didn't last 6 months until one day my alarm went off and I found myself listening to hip-hop. The classical station I liked in Jersey vanished and went "classic rock." It's the same with talk radio--but the rent's cheaper.

Nobody regulates the Africa-centered tv station's content and requires that some white guys be allowed to tell the black audience how bigoted and hateful they are, and they shouldn't. It wouldn't be any different saying the same things to Limbaugh listeners. They're part of the public, too, and not every frequency has to meet the standards set by every member of the public.

The Fairness Doctrine was something not everybody liked, and was pretty much a joke as far as I remember. There'd be somebody saying something that disagreed with the station's viewpoint or take on a story, and pretty much only die-hards cared one way or another. The turnaround time made it so any rebuttal was stale. It provided an extra-long bathroom break. But it made a certain sense when there were 4 tv stations in a city, or perhaps fewer. Then one or two viewpoints could monopolize tv news. (When I moved to Eugene, Oregon, there were 2 tv stations. One station carried two networks.) Now I can get 50 channels over the airwaves, hundreds by cable (if I got cable). I don't have to worry about my viewpoint being presented. All I have to do is find it. And I don't have a right to hear my viewpoint on every station, or ensure that others hear my viewpoint, and feel no burning desire to make sure my voice is heard. My response to offensive speech is to ignore it if I can't rebut it. But nobody says I have to rebut it in the same medium. If enough people ignore a broadcaster, it'll go away. Which is why "my" grunge station didn't survive--the owners got a deal they couldn't turn down.

Note that the FCC is out of the "freely granting" phase and is trying to free up more space for more stations and things like wireless communications. It's not going to seize the spectrum back, however--the last time it did something like that was forcing conversion of tv stations from analog to digital it was a mess. http://www.broadcastlawblog.com/2015/03/articles/want-a-new-fm-station-fcc-proposes-fm-auction-in-july-lists-channels-to-be-sold-and-imposes-a-freeze-on-certain-applications/

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Recommended because I feel this is an important topic, but........ guillaumeb Aug 2016 #1
My solution is here. ZX86 Aug 2016 #3
An excellent answer. I am glad I asked. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #13
Public owned airwaves should serve the public who owns them. ZX86 Aug 2016 #15
Rather than equal time... OneGrassRoot Aug 2016 #47
I could not concur with your post more. prarie deem Aug 2016 #29
I'm curious what you mean by "drug addicts and degenerate sex perverts" Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #31
Rush? Person 2713 Aug 2016 #36
Well how do you suggest addressing it? Loki Liesmith Aug 2016 #2
I do have other ideas that don't involve banning content. ZX86 Aug 2016 #4
True SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #20
So racists and predatory sex perverts should make that call? ZX86 Aug 2016 #25
So get a radio show and make it work SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #27
It's sad liberals have been unsuccessful in radio yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #5
Liberals have been unsuccessful in corporate controlled radio. ZX86 Aug 2016 #8
Yes, that is true.. mountain grammy Aug 2016 #22
We had a liberal station here in SF with high ratings kimbutgar Aug 2016 #55
I'd give up cable tv before I'd give up Sirius. mountain grammy Aug 2016 #58
US media has been dramatically altered since Reagan ignored the Fairness Doctrine, appalachiablue Aug 2016 #33
What are you talking about? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2016 #6
Liberals don't claim to like racist hate radio. ZX86 Aug 2016 #9
Flimsy freedom of speak issues PrideofJefferson Aug 2016 #32
I will always support the right to broadcast what you call "hate speech". Throd Aug 2016 #7
Here's a prime example. ZX86 Aug 2016 #11
You don't understand the first amendment at all. Throd Aug 2016 #23
You don't understand White privilege. ZX86 Aug 2016 #26
You left out women and LGBT. Quantess Aug 2016 #45
The first amendment metroins Aug 2016 #54
It's not only that maxrandb Aug 2016 #10
What a bunch of horse shit melman Aug 2016 #12
Please join the conversation. ZX86 Aug 2016 #14
yes we whites lead pristine, easy lives Skittles Aug 2016 #16
And the bonus of not having your tax dollars ZX86 Aug 2016 #17
because rightwing radio NEVER trashes women Skittles Aug 2016 #18
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #21
You could at least spell her name correctly. Old and In the Way Aug 2016 #30
Is that your not-so-subtle way of telling us who you think controls the media? SMC22307 Aug 2016 #35
because Jews control the media ? JI7 Aug 2016 #37
How are your tax dollars "used" to fund that? Lee-Lee Aug 2016 #51
What does this gobbledygooky sentence mean... leftstreet Aug 2016 #19
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #24
They put Herman Cain or Allen West on to supposedly prove they aren't racist. Hoyt Aug 2016 #28
Let's please judge people by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2016 #42
Have you looked at the crud they are saying about Clinton and Obama? That's crummy character. Hoyt Aug 2016 #43
Fuck the white liberal bashing, and stop trying to divide all of us. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #34
Absolute nonsense. Only cowards and authoritarians want to ban speech. tritsofme Aug 2016 #38
The 1st Amendment protects hate speech. RAFisher Aug 2016 #39
Putting freedom of speech in quotes... TipTok Aug 2016 #40
This is mostly just screwed up. Igel Aug 2016 #41
As noted 1939 Aug 2016 #44
I'm a white liberal female. Quantess Aug 2016 #46
Seems like your more concerned with controlling what other people listen to, than what you listen to Captain Stern Aug 2016 #48
What is this fresh hell? reflection Aug 2016 #49
i like to tell advertisers i find the show offensive and then walk out wallet in hand dembotoz Aug 2016 #50
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #52
Ugh anoNY42 Aug 2016 #53
Hi! Nice to see you. Thanks for your countervailing wisdom. Stinky The Clown Aug 2016 #56
Hey, I see it as a calling anoNY42 Aug 2016 #57
Ah. I see where you're going with this. Stinky The Clown Aug 2016 #59
Thank you so much for saying this Tsiyu Aug 2016 #60
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