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lapucelle

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53. Your analogy is missing an important element

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 04:50 PM

Aug 2016

With the emails, there are two variables: classified information and regular information.

Now suppose I'm a frequent buyer of your cheese. I order both full fat and reduced fat cheese from your company. Whenever you send me the cheese, you only mark it 100% cheese when it's full fat. You always send the reduced fat cheese unmarked.

One day you send me full fat cheese, but you forget to mark it. Am I wrong to conclude that it's reduced fat cheese?

This analogy is better, but it is still not on point with the situation at hand because how much fat something has is a fact. Designating something classified is a judgement. The FBI standards for classification are different from those used by the State Department.

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CNN continues to trumpet false narrative WRT the sending of "classified" emails [View all] Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 OP

crickets? Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #1

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I don't see why she doesn't just say SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #11

here you go....this is in answer to your post below. let's see what you can Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #13

I've already posted the text and link SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #15

no, they were not. see post 16. Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #18

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It's not a false narrative SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #9

EDIT: see post #12 here. I think you're wrong. what I remember seeing/reading was that those Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #12

Text and citation below SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #14

here we go....who you going to believe? Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #16

Everything in your first quote confirms what I posted SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #19

I see your point at the end, and she should have done a better job of dealing with that, Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #28

"Confidential" is a level of classification and items marked such are classified Lee-Lee Aug 2016 #40

I was wrong about the upclassification of the 110 emails..... Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #21

I've already said that I don't blame Hillary SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #23

Its irrelevant that they were classified if she didn't know and even Comey said an expert wouldn't uponit7771 Aug 2016 #25

Comey didn't say an expert SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #27

quoted text and link uponit7771 Aug 2016 #30

those three are a no go.....total BS....it's the 52, and, especially the eight "top secret" Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #35

NOT MARKED CLASSIFIED AT THE TIME = NOT CLASSIFIED........ period full stop. uponit7771 Aug 2016 #37

If I read classified information on a secure server... TipTok Aug 2016 #75

so...is Hillary the culprit?>>>>> edit header Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #76

Honestly.... TipTok Aug 2016 #78

Those emails were classified post hoc and NOT MARKED CLASSIFIED and Comey himself said and expert uponit7771 Aug 2016 #24

Doesn't matter if they were marked or not SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #26

Come intimated that it did matter after Cartwright asked if she was an expert would she know if the uponit7771 Aug 2016 #31

She sent and received SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #33

This is false on its face, if they're not marked classified AT THE TIME then they weren't classified uponit7771 Aug 2016 #36

You're way off base here... TCJ70 Aug 2016 #38

Again, those 110 emails were NOT MARKED classified at the time !! I really don't understand what uponit7771 Aug 2016 #39

The markings don't matter to whether or not it was classified... TCJ70 Aug 2016 #43

No, in this context the contents would NOT be cheese even to an expert. Comey said that in the... uponit7771 Aug 2016 #46

This is the kind of blind devotion and unwillingness to see a problem that is frustrating... TCJ70 Aug 2016 #47

In YOUR context it is cheese in THIS context Comey said it wasn't EVEN to a cheese expert!!! uponit7771 Aug 2016 #48

Yep, willful ignorance SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #49

Exactly. N/t TCJ70 Aug 2016 #50

Who removed headers and markings" lapucelle Aug 2016 #54

Whomever moved the emails down from classified systems SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #55

You seem to have an inside track to some kind of conspiracy theory. lapucelle Aug 2016 #60

No conspiracy theory at all SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #62

Your analogy is missing an important element lapucelle Aug 2016 #53

The FBI didn't determine the emails were classified SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #56

You actually need to link to something that supports what you're saying. lapucelle Aug 2016 #58

No problem SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #61

'determined by' does not mean 'marked' Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #68

No one has claimed they were marked SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #73

I don't know where you getting this stuff about 100 emails lapucelle Aug 2016 #51

The 100+ emails info SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #52

You need to actually link to a source that confirms your facts. lapucelle Aug 2016 #57

No problem SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #59

That's the "known or should have known" nonsense. lapucelle Aug 2016 #63

Not sure why you see it as some kind of conspiracy SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #64

For some reason, it just seems to fit. lapucelle Aug 2016 #65

thank you for knowing what you're talking about. as of today, Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #69

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Call them on it. Twitter is fastest way. E-mail bombs and Tweets. nt glennward Aug 2016 #20

that's a good idea. too bad nobody here is paying any attention. I'll see what the email add is. Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #22

Thank you! I watched all the Comey testimony etc. and I also have been skylucy Aug 2016 #29

yr wlcm. they've repeated this meme on CNN at least twice since the last time I mentioned Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #32

I think some of these reporters should be asked? kentuck Aug 2016 #44

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They can't let it go... kentuck Aug 2016 #41

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I tweeted Morning Joe and his guest on this. Don't let them get away with it. glennward Aug 2016 #45

CNBC got the story straight when it broke. lapucelle Aug 2016 #67

I spent HOURS looking for stories like this, and found almost none. glad you did. Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #70

just as I finished the above cnn teased another story on the emails!!!!! Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #71

wrong about the state dept emails. the host just showed the ''Jew'' email Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #72

bringing this back, because they're going CRAZY over this again, and not allowing Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #74

Well, the Donald had a terrible week, to be fair the media is trying to give Hillary one liberal N proud Aug 2016 #77

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2016 #79

it's expanding like the blob.....it's on tv all the time...four times since 8:15 this morning Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #80

Between CNN and your posts I've heard about this 20 times in 2 days GummyBearz Aug 2016 #82

cnn and msnbc have mentioned this four times since 9AM. Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #84

Comey could have clarified his comments.. kentuck Aug 2016 #81

only since whitewater, during which he was one of Starr's chief inquistors Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #83

prediction.....within ten minutes of now, both cnn and msnbc will have a segment on the emails Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #85

tock....wrong again! Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #86

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now they're showing trump talking about the short circuit...so they're not letting Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #88

like trump, I'll take the credit for seeing what this would lead to Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #89