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zipplewrath

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31. Define "good"

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:13 PM

Aug 2016

They may get a "job" but the question is always just how "good" it is. It is why labor opposes the TPP. And what safety will they actually get, especially at this job so that their health is ensured. Will they get health care?

I have no problems in "helping" our multinationals flourish, but it must be tied to some assurance that the workers will share in the "flourishing". Does the TPP do that? Will it ensure that the workers in Vietnam share in it?

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"China is not a part of TPP" Obama at presser live right now [View all] flamingdem Aug 2016 OP

I have long wondered why most here oppose radical noodle Aug 2016 #1

I'm with you, I need to learn more about TPP since I usually see Obama's reaoning flamingdem Aug 2016 #3

It's not about people zipplewrath Aug 2016 #4

THe issue being that they become too powerful? flamingdem Aug 2016 #6

Obama says there are good controls over employee benefits radical noodle Aug 2016 #7

Previous agreements zipplewrath Aug 2016 #12

Good information flamingdem Aug 2016 #17

Not allowed to explain zipplewrath Aug 2016 #20

And it shouldn't allow you to drop stink bombs like this, either. LoverOfLiberty Aug 2016 #35

What would that be? zipplewrath Aug 2016 #37

While the environmental folks were trashing TPP, Obama helped with Paris Accord Hoyt Aug 2016 #24

What problems will it solve? zipplewrath Aug 2016 #28

So a Vietnamese or Mexican gets a decent job at an auto plant,or some guy in rural Mississippi Hoyt Aug 2016 #29

Define "good" zipplewrath Aug 2016 #31

You are looking at this totally from a Nationalistic view point. They won't a have chance at Hoyt Aug 2016 #33

Not exactly zipplewrath Aug 2016 #34

I think their best hope is to get a little bit better job, then as they acquire skills, they'll Hoyt Aug 2016 #38

At what cost zipplewrath Aug 2016 #39

Nationalism and Americanfirstism at its finest. We took more than our share Hoyt Aug 2016 #40

Our new motto zipplewrath Aug 2016 #48

That's the motto of those who view foreign workers as scabs. Hoyt Aug 2016 #49

Everything is better zipplewrath Aug 2016 #50

Because trade deals rarely work out well for the working class davidn3600 Aug 2016 #21

There was a news story in the last couple of days LoverOfLiberty Aug 2016 #36

You don't know enough because of the fact the government doesn't want you to know ANYTHING about it. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2016 #25

i thought the content was fairly well understood by those that oppose it maxsolomon Aug 2016 #42

Is the complete text available online? If not, why not? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2016 #43

yes maxsolomon Aug 2016 #44

Thank you. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2016 #45

haha maxsolomon Aug 2016 #46

I think you just shot the nail in the head. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2016 #47

The top Democrat on trade in the House is against it as are the majority of Democrats in the House. think Aug 2016 #26

I am conflicted about it democrattotheend Aug 2016 #41

WW I zipplewrath Aug 2016 #2

Yes, he didn't use that wording but it is generally the point flamingdem Aug 2016 #5

Or it could start a real shootin' war zipplewrath Aug 2016 #8

I didn't get the feeling that this was to "isolate" China radical noodle Aug 2016 #9

Do you prefer the word "exclude"? zipplewrath Aug 2016 #13

But don't we already have tons of trade with China? radical noodle Aug 2016 #15

What makes sense abouting a war? zipplewrath Aug 2016 #18

Interesting, a very complex international issue and possible military conflict flamingdem Aug 2016 #14

Because he isn't perfect zipplewrath Aug 2016 #19

Maybe we shouldn't have made them so powerful with our consumer-society $$ Doremus Aug 2016 #30

Wait, WHAT? Atman Aug 2016 #10

His point was this radical noodle Aug 2016 #11

Huh? zipplewrath Aug 2016 #16

Sure oil is huge but radical noodle Aug 2016 #22

Thanks for a link to the presser flamingdem Aug 2016 #23

Alot of clothing comes out of that region zipplewrath Aug 2016 #27

TPP will pass in the lame duck. tritsofme Aug 2016 #32