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LWolf

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24. I'm not concerned.

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 03:37 PM

Aug 2016

Or nervous. The truth? I don't honestly know, and haven't decided which way to lean on the matter at this point.

Should we have held on to the money all this time? I can argue both sides, so I'll remain on the fence.

Is the timing a coincidence? I doubt it. If we have people being held as hostages, I want them returned, and if they can be recovered without violence by attaching them to something else, I'm all for it.

I'm sorry that there is so much "concern" bullshit reading down your thread. I don't think there's anything to get so damned defensive about that you cannot even discuss an event or issue openly without immediately and loudly declaring the purity of whatever Democratic politician is involved.

We, and our party, are better when we air differences and problems openly and honestly.

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So, this $400 million thing is looking like a thing. [View all] renie408 Aug 2016 OP

This was out in January... liberalmuse Aug 2016 #1

Thank you. This is an example of why people... YvonneCa Aug 2016 #109

If, by "thing" you actually mean "nothing".. MynameisBlarney Aug 2016 #2

Barbara Boxer was on MSNBC madaboutharry Aug 2016 #3

Well, that makes sense. tinrobot Aug 2016 #25

Yeah, I was going to ask if we just released some of their frozen assets Warpy Aug 2016 #36

Or technical secrets to China !!! nt clarice Aug 2016 #156

That is pretty much PatSeg Aug 2016 #94

Oh no.....it's a faux's noise story...... a kennedy Aug 2016 #124

Color me confused..... Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #4

A load of horse-shit, right wing framing, if you ask me! nt MADem Aug 2016 #12

And I wouldn't argue with you. renie408 Aug 2016 #30

Because someone I've never heard of tells a lie on TV, I'm supposed to get nervous? MADem Aug 2016 #54

NO, but when John McCain releases a statement about ransom to a state sponsor of terrorism renie408 Aug 2016 #61

oh, that's right he's running for re-election right?? Right. a kennedy Aug 2016 #125

John McCain doesn't BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #133

You don't understand! jberryhill Aug 2016 #72

Thanks. renie408 Aug 2016 #96

Lol jberryhill Aug 2016 #106

You posed a question that is outside of the narrative tymorial Aug 2016 #129

The answers are available to anyone with access to Google. MADem Aug 2016 #149

THIS ^^^^^ !!!!! clarice Aug 2016 #158

You're joking here, right? herding cats Aug 2016 #146

That is MD's modus operandi...please ignore. nt clarice Aug 2016 #157

LOL!!!!!!! We're DOOOOOOOMED, I guess!! nt MADem Aug 2016 #148

I am sure it is Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #64

What is your question? nt MADem Aug 2016 #68

What the OP was about? Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #88

The US government released $400 million of Iran's money that had been frozen renie408 Aug 2016 #101

I do not feel Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #137

U.S. to pay Iran $1.7 billion in legal settlement csziggy Aug 2016 #71

I think the timing is...unfortunate. renie408 Aug 2016 #104

You keep saying "unmarked plane" jberryhill Aug 2016 #112

But it isn't. Didn't cost the US taxpayer a cent. That money was Iranian money anyway. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #5

problem is, I've seen four discussions on this, and no moderator has mentioned this simple fact Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #8

Yep. I just watched ten minutes of "Obama/Clinton gave $400 million to a state sponsor of terrorism" renie408 Aug 2016 #16

It's all smoke and mirrors from "liberal" media angrychair Aug 2016 #45

So what we are really worrying about is treestar Aug 2016 #115

Hi Gaby... we haven't been formally introduced....my name is Clarice... clarice Aug 2016 #160

It had something to do with Reagan shitstorm back when he became president!! onecent Aug 2016 #6

Here's the simple explanation: When Iran seized US hostages, the US froze Iran's bank accounts. FSogol Aug 2016 #7

bwhahahahhahha jberryhill Aug 2016 #9

CNN has this as "BREAKING"! liberalmuse Aug 2016 #13

Because media people have the memory of a housefly jberryhill Aug 2016 #17

Gotta have a horse race Egnever Aug 2016 #135

I'm not having the vapors... liberalmuse Aug 2016 #136

Sounded from you post you took it seriously Egnever Aug 2016 #140

You're rude. liberalmuse Aug 2016 #162

Thanks. But if you are watching the news, that's not what you are hearing. renie408 Aug 2016 #21

What sort of "problem" is it? jberryhill Aug 2016 #28

So call them out on it instead of wringing your hands. Brickbat Aug 2016 #33

I tried calling Michelle Kosinski, but she was too busy renie408 Aug 2016 #80

If you want people to not do the "concern bullshit," then don't post "concern OPs." MADem Aug 2016 #10

they are DESPERATE to find a rock upon which to cling, to get them out from Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #15

Ok, since YOU say it is not a problem and I am not allowed to think it is o renie408 Aug 2016 #23

I don't get this 'concern trolling' thing melman Aug 2016 #48

If it were my 37th post and I was trying to make a Dem look bad.. renie408 Aug 2016 #57

I don't have cable citood Aug 2016 #117

Agreed. librarylu Aug 2016 #153

It appears to be the new norm. Its really disturbing Arazi Aug 2016 #70

There's a difference between noticing the negative story treestar Aug 2016 #111

Well it beats the famous "happy giddy dance" jberryhill Aug 2016 #114

I think it IS a problem. Chemisse Aug 2016 #58

You're getting push-back because you're not covering the story of the day, which started MADem Aug 2016 #60

what dial were you clicking? I saw four stories about PAYMENTS, in the words of the Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #75

Here you go--they read from this script. MADem Aug 2016 #147

The U.S. has held the funds since the Iranian whistler162 Aug 2016 #11

It's not Hillary's problem. Hillary is not responsible for Obama and Kerry. lapucelle Aug 2016 #14

So you are saying grubbs Aug 2016 #18

EVERYTHING is her fault. one of these aholes on cnn said she's been a lying thief Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #19

Get a hold of yourself and learn the real story. Brickbat Aug 2016 #20

Gosh, does being supercilious come naturally, renie408 Aug 2016 #27

It's a huge part of my personality. I embrace it, as you've noticed. Brickbat Aug 2016 #32

I feel sure that it works about as well in real life as it does here. renie408 Aug 2016 #37

Okay, that's enough. Iggo Aug 2016 #50

Yeah, that was low. renie408 Aug 2016 #53

It's not a thing. The negotiation teams were completely separate. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #22

I'm not concerned. LWolf Aug 2016 #24

The part that makes me nervous is that Brook Baldwin sure looked happy renie408 Aug 2016 #41

they didn't let her talk, for the most part, and when she did, they cut her off. Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #44

At one point she just folded her hands and sat renie408 Aug 2016 #55

She looked happy? Because it's fodder for the horse race. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #152

Your concern is duly noted. eom MohRokTah Aug 2016 #26

have you been watching? the media are doing to this EXACTLY what they did with Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #31

See? This is kinda what I thought. renie408 Aug 2016 #39

Oh yeah Cosmocat Aug 2016 #76

It's not a thing that Iran is being given back THEIR money they've had in a trust for 40-years here. herding cats Aug 2016 #29

it doesn't MATTER! nobody is going to hear that over the roar of the pugs lies, and the Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #34

I hear you, but they're hearing it from me when they bring it up. herding cats Aug 2016 #38

Well, that's a relief. When will they be interviewing you on CNN?? renie408 Aug 2016 #40

It's hard to understand when CNN just showed Michelle Kosinski renie408 Aug 2016 #35

So, since cable news wants to "sexy" it up for their ratings that makes it a concern herding cats Aug 2016 #42

Is this post for real? renie408 Aug 2016 #46

I really don't understand what you're saying. herding cats Aug 2016 #66

I know. It's OK. n/t renie408 Aug 2016 #79

pretty amazing cluelessness, isn't it? they don't seem to understand the way Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #43

Oh, but now that I am armed with the facts renie408 Aug 2016 #47

PLEASE READ: This is one of the things we do when we knock doors and GOTV emulatorloo Aug 2016 #132

Nice to meet another active party member! herding cats Aug 2016 #139

It isn't matt819 Aug 2016 #49

This is how we get in trouble. renie408 Aug 2016 #52

CNN has less viewers than the Kardashians Egnever Aug 2016 #144

PEOPLE, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT IS. IT MATTERS WHAT IT IS BEING PORTRAYED AS... renie408 Aug 2016 #51

It's being portrayed as "Trump doesn't know what he's talking about again" jberryhill Aug 2016 #56

how many people will read that, as opposed to the fact free play it's getting all afternoon Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #62

Where do you think those moron talking heads get their news? From the wires! MADem Aug 2016 #65

How many people are watching news in the middle of the god-damned day? jberryhill Aug 2016 #67

Yeah, whew!! renie408 Aug 2016 #77

Well, I guess you could go jump off a cliff or something jberryhill Aug 2016 #82

Nope. renie408 Aug 2016 #86

What action do you think should be done? SticksnStones Aug 2016 #120

Turn the news off you clearly can't deal with it Egnever Aug 2016 #141

See, this is why your pre-emptive "Please don't do the 'concern' bullshit" was, well, bullshit muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #154

+1,000,000! Of course, nobody listens to those silly little people at AP--LOL! MADem Aug 2016 #63

The article seems to echo the OP's concerns: ronnie624 Aug 2016 #145

Fact checkers are on it Maeve Aug 2016 #59

Don't worry olympics will get rid of it yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #69

Hillary is going to LOSE the Olympics! jberryhill Aug 2016 #73

All politicians will yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #74

I think you're right to be concerned. Marr Aug 2016 #78

I think the people who rack up a ton of posts on here renie408 Aug 2016 #83

True. Marr Aug 2016 #92

LOL..pretty much renie408 Aug 2016 #95

DU doesn't resemble any group of people I hang with in RL riderinthestorm Aug 2016 #138

I do understand how you feel SirBrockington Aug 2016 #97

I asked my sister if she'd heard this ... she had no idea about any of it. JoePhilly Aug 2016 #98

Ok...See, THIS is more like what I was looking for. renie408 Aug 2016 #108

Cool ... JoePhilly Aug 2016 #113

I don't know why you're so "concerned" about a network that hired Corey Lewandowski. I mean, Tarheel_Dem Aug 2016 #134

you mean the agreement w/Iran that involved unfreezing their assets actually unfroze their assets? Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #81

Yes, being patronizing is always the sign of being in the right. renie408 Aug 2016 #84

because the GOP is slo-mo-imploding and they're trying desperately to change the subject? Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #89

when it's uniformly called RANSOM PAYMENTS by moderators like Tapper, and everybody Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #85

Just forget it. All they want to hear is RAH RAH FUCK TRUMP!! renie408 Aug 2016 #87

I went to cnn.com -- The top banner is "the GOP's trump freakout" Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #93

how far ahead was dukakis after the conventions in 88? Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #99

This is not 1988. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #103

No mention during first 40 minutes of Blitzer's show jberryhill Aug 2016 #102

I don't watch any of that shit, but like I said, on the internet the story is the GOP falling apart. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #105

It's the top story on CNN too jberryhill Aug 2016 #107

When you buy every bullshit story the news spews Egnever Aug 2016 #142

I don't know, man. I don't watch cable news. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #90

NOW I remember!! n/t renie408 Aug 2016 #91

Headlines on msnbc.com: "Allies plot Trump intervention amid turmoil" Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #110

. jberryhill Aug 2016 #118

I never lie and I'm always right, but...... Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #116

cnn and msnbc are both teasing the ransom....wolf called them cash payments Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #119

Guardian article details the non issue eleny Aug 2016 #121

Could this be linked to the hostages? SirBrockington Aug 2016 #122

Do you mean Reagan's Iran-Contra scandal? eleny Aug 2016 #123

Non-issue, I agree. roamer65 Aug 2016 #126

So, this $400 million thing is looking like a thing. LenaBaby61 Aug 2016 #127

I have about 80 conservative friends on FB lancer78 Aug 2016 #128

lol, old news sir, besides trump will bury that news okieinpain Aug 2016 #130

Believe me, this is something BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #131

The MSM has been amazingly dumb in their discussion of this story. Vattel Aug 2016 #143

MJ just spent two hours on Trump's "intervention"... brooklynite Aug 2016 #150

OMG, USA gives back Iran it's own money and stops a nuclear arms race. Scandalous B Calm Aug 2016 #151

Sadly, No LaydeeBug Aug 2016 #155

If you have a problem with it, don't vote for Obama in the next election. Baitball Blogger Aug 2016 #159

interesting story Beausoleil Aug 2016 #161