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DLevine

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71. I agree with you regarding toxic cultures, such as anti-gay.

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 06:34 AM

Aug 2016

That's what I'm talking about, cultures that hurt people who have no choice but to live within that culture.

You and I have more in common than not. I'm an atheist. I believe people should have consensual sex with anyone they want, and with as many people as they want. Why not? I agree, the human body is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm not "an authoritarian".

My concern is just this: that women are held to a different standard than men. Hell, look at Fox news (ok, maybe not). The women may or may not want to wear short skirts, but it is something expected of them. The men are fully dressed. If the men were expected to sit in short shorts with their junk hanging out, at least then it would be fair.

I'm not telling any individual what to do, I'm just talking about a culture that is often unfair to women. Peace.

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NBC is showing Womens' Beach Volleyball...non-stop [View all] TheDonnasRule Aug 2016 OP

Might as well get something good out of the Olympics... TipTok Aug 2016 #1

Proud to say it was invented here in Santa Barbara, but still puzzled by it being Olympic Hekate Aug 2016 #2

the skimpy clothes on women gey eyeballs to the TV rurallib Aug 2016 #8

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Some proud Hawaiians may disagree with that.... Brother Buzz Aug 2016 #22

Yep...I remember. WiffenPoof Aug 2016 #94

Chase Palm Park? Still there. And Goleta Beach next to UCSB. Hekate Aug 2016 #119

Lived in Goleta WiffenPoof Aug 2016 #120

At least it's an athletic sport. I don't get how air rifle or skeet shooting Exilednight Aug 2016 #98

Their swim suit bottoms are so... 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #3

Brazil missed the opportunity to capitalize on that suggestion. TheDonnasRule Aug 2016 #4

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #5

But the men are wearing burqas on the sand. Ilsa Aug 2016 #6

The men's uniforms are designed for the sport. DLevine Aug 2016 #7

They should be able to wear what they want. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #10

They should wear a uniform appropriate for the sport, DLevine Aug 2016 #11

Maybe I get excited... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #14

They are allowed to wear what they want Ex Lurker Aug 2016 #52

Athletes competed in the nude, back in the day RapSoDee Aug 2016 #79

No man would watch any of the male dominated sports if they were nude it redstatebluegirl Aug 2016 #95

I would if it were the winter olympics! Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #113

I would TrogL Aug 2016 #144

Hey GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #23

They do have options madville Aug 2016 #12

Thanks for that info. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #13

Yep but most still choose the skimpier xmas74 Aug 2016 #49

The Egyptian team wore full body suits FrodosPet Aug 2016 #85

Looks a little warm. Ilsa Aug 2016 #90

Given that they live in Egypt, I doubt it jberryhill Aug 2016 #126

As someone who has to cover up marybourg Aug 2016 #131

Are the sleeves loose or tight, light or dark? (just curious) nt Ilsa Aug 2016 #135

Mine are white, marybourg Aug 2016 #138

Legs and sleeves were black and tight, though. Ilsa Aug 2016 #134

It gets complicated jberryhill Aug 2016 #136

Thanks for the links! nt Ilsa Aug 2016 #137

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That's definitely NBC's approach to their coverage... PoutrageFatigue Aug 2016 #18

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Touche ! n/t Angel Martin Aug 2016 #25

LOL! Chellee Aug 2016 #31

Ha, well done! emulatorloo Aug 2016 #55

Olympic history buff is a particularly appropriate label for you pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #64

I DISCOVERED THAT THAT TORCH IS -REALLY- HOT Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #65

... pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #68

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I have read GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #24

Is Dubya there to ogle them? backscatter712 Aug 2016 #19

One of Trump's policy proposals is that the team wear smaller bathing suits and higher heels. lapucelle Aug 2016 #28

Those women should be wearing the onesie monkey suits MineralMan Aug 2016 #20

They were still around in the late 60s. 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #35

The boys didn't mind. MineralMan Aug 2016 #41

Yup MFM008 Aug 2016 #105

For reasons I could never fathom, so... 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #106

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I think that is very cute. apcalc Aug 2016 #39

Me, too. MineralMan Aug 2016 #42

We Had RobinA Aug 2016 #77

They were lucky! marybourg Aug 2016 #107

It made no difference, really. MineralMan Aug 2016 #118

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How's the basketball? Any close games? nt JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2016 #116

Against The American Teams ProfessorGAC Aug 2016 #117

Yet zipplewrath Aug 2016 #130

No It Won't ProfessorGAC Aug 2016 #155

Been watching? zipplewrath Aug 2016 #189

I Was Wrong ProfessorGAC Aug 2016 #190

You're not allowed to say that. zipplewrath Aug 2016 #191

Hasn't been close yet for Team USA. RandySF Aug 2016 #125

Big fan Loki Liesmith Aug 2016 #27

their skimpy swim suits... chillfactor Aug 2016 #29

They should be covered up with something like a burka Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #30

Right, if not a bikini, the only remaining option is a burqa. nt DLevine Aug 2016 #32

It must be rather constricting to allow for only two possibilities. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #193

I do not approve of this message TheDonnasRule Aug 2016 #34

In the original Olympics the competitions were performed in the nude KelleyKramer Aug 2016 #47

You do know they get to choose what they wear correct? Separation Aug 2016 #60

But those icky men might get excited! FrodosPet Aug 2016 #87

"Icky men"? You aren't getting it. It is ALWAYS the women's fault Quantess Aug 2016 #147

Boom! He put up that straw man, and you torched it! Squinch Aug 2016 #152

Hey not everybody likes the same color schemes that you do! snooper2 Aug 2016 #91

The puritan police are allowed to have an opinion onenote Aug 2016 #194

The human body is sinful and evil Calculating Aug 2016 #33

I know, it's crazy Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #36

If they like it then I like it too! TheDonnasRule Aug 2016 #37

Vollayball players gonna play volleyball, outrage farmers gonna outrage Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #40

They should be comfortable treestar Aug 2016 #44

No, but people will come up with all sorts of authoritative-sounding gibberish to rebrand what is Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #45

With all due respect, DLevine Aug 2016 #58

Do the athletes themselves object to the outfits, or not? Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #62

It's a bigger issue than that. DLevine Aug 2016 #69

And like I said, authoritarians always have long lists of reasons why "it's bigger" than just Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #70

I agree with you regarding toxic cultures, such as anti-gay. DLevine Aug 2016 #71

And I agree that it should be more fair. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #72

Hey, I agree with everything you just said! DLevine Aug 2016 #74

I would think the players would wear treestar Aug 2016 #180

The only quote I've actually seen from an actual womens' volleyball player said, they prefer the Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #185

And you believe that treestar Aug 2016 #186

well that's a convenient way to justify authoritarian negation of peoples' personal choice, innit. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #188

"If the players themselves object to the outfits" jack_krass Aug 2016 #61

What makes you think it is not comfortable? kwassa Aug 2016 #46

I've Worn a Bikini RobinA Aug 2016 #82

Those scanty bikini bottoms look uncomfortable to me, too. 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #109

Me, too. Frankly, you can get a big irritation "down there" from the friction of the fabric. Peregrine Took Aug 2016 #129

These are performance fabrics jberryhill Aug 2016 #128

They appear to be wearing something tight treestar Aug 2016 #181

As stated above, they have a choice, and most choose to wear the bikinis nt Ex Lurker Aug 2016 #53

If they didn't, they might attract attention treestar Aug 2016 #182

It's been cooler the last few nights Ex Lurker Aug 2016 #184

why is it only the women Skittles Aug 2016 #48

They should. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author DLevine Aug 2016 #59

To Me, RobinA Aug 2016 #81

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I only have OTA (over the air) TV. :( TheDonnasRule Aug 2016 #50

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Egypt has some classy uniforms mwrguy Aug 2016 #57

and are the bikinis supposed to make people mad? Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #63

People keep saying this about "the original Olympics" rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #86

no weirder than people being mad over skimpy volleyball uniforms. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #100

All the venues are showing on other stations and online, too. procon Aug 2016 #56

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you seem tense. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #101

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she is. MFM008 Aug 2016 #114

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betcha drump was watching/ogling OxQQme Aug 2016 #121

We got Womens' Beach Volleyball again tonight... TheDonnasRule Aug 2016 #123

Gotta keep rating up by objectifying scantily-clad women. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #124

What's fascinating are the objections either way jberryhill Aug 2016 #127

I'm pretty sure nobody is complaining about the Egyptian teams uniform. Separation Aug 2016 #132

Some xenophobic types have turned acceptance of the hypersexualization of women and girls... Odin2005 Aug 2016 #133

right, I think individual choice is a preferable value to having ones choices made by others. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #141

People also have a right to choose to dress modestly without... Odin2005 Aug 2016 #149

Im not telling anyone what to wear or not to wear. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #150

Nobody is telling athletes that they should not be allowed to wear bikinis. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #151

Why dont you let the athletes make that call. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #158

Now you are just being absurd. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #159

How are bikinis not normal athletic attire? Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #161

Who is telling you that Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #169

meaningless words and phrases Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #142

Are you comparing Feminism to woo? Odin2005 Aug 2016 #148

Im saying that nonsense is nonsense, and poorly defined concepts are poorly defined concepts. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #153

You're not getting what "objectification" means. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #156

Made up concepts with no actual basis other than someone has decided Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #160

Bringing up the objectification of women here DLevine Aug 2016 #157

The Regressive Left. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #163

Yup. It's sad. nt DLevine Aug 2016 #164

The right of women to be told not to choose their own outfits? Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #166

How many times do I have to fucking repeat myself? NOBODY IS TELLING WOMEN TO DO ANYTHING! Odin2005 Aug 2016 #167

Gonna answer my questions, or not? Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #168

Remember this classic? opiate69 Aug 2016 #171

"Freedom Is Slavery" Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #175

ZOMG--I confess I ogled...and I think it will happen again. GOLGO 13 Aug 2016 #139

Like my buddy said: panader0 Aug 2016 #140

The Kafkaesque world of DU Ex Lurker Aug 2016 #143

True. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #145

This thread has legs liberal N proud Aug 2016 #162

Only because women's issues are very important to DU. nt DLevine Aug 2016 #165

A Sincere Question For You ProfessorGAC Aug 2016 #170

The women's issue is called the sexual objectification of women. DLevine Aug 2016 #172

I Can't Believe On A Democratic Site That You Can't Answer An Honest Question ProfessorGAC Aug 2016 #173

Below is a paragraph that might clarify. DLevine Aug 2016 #174

We've also seen the argument prostitutes choose their profession treestar Aug 2016 #187

I see what you did there. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #176

I hear there are "complaints" from the athletes about their own outfits. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #178

Porn is easy to find online IronLionZion Aug 2016 #179