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Maybe Randall should have raps Jun 2012 #1
Since you are new; greiner3 Jun 2012 #94
Ummm.. dubient Jun 2012 #97
I think so and I think he hoped like I do that the first commenter Maraya1969 Jun 2012 #139
There's a lot of people out there that need anger managment class. L0oniX Jun 2012 #140
That is a very realistic point of view. FarPoint Jun 2012 #156
Hear hear. All road rage will get you is dead - from a heart attack if not from being shot. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #205
Another reason to reconsider these type gun laws. Hoyt Jun 2012 #2
Lessons learned: stay on your bike and don't assault someone first. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #3
I'm mystified by this notion alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #4
Over 700 people a year are murdered by "hands, fists or feet" hack89 Jun 2012 #13
I get your point alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #31
I am now a 50 year old man with physical disablities hack89 Jun 2012 #35
From what I read in article, guy could have driven off. I think prosecutor nailed it. Hoyt Jun 2012 #38
The guy on the bike made the choice to violently assault someone. hack89 Jun 2012 #43
Still could have driven off. And it doesn't sound like the shooter was "beaten" close to death. Hoyt Jun 2012 #44
And you know for a fact that he could have driven away? Show me. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #46
Read the article, bike was behind him. And driver left the scene of the shooting after he shot him. Hoyt Jun 2012 #49
He left because he didn't know it the guys wife SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #53
I don't care why he left, he did. Should have done it before pulling his gun. And he shouldn't Hoyt Jun 2012 #56
Your were not there Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #59
Neither were you. DA said he thinks it is wrong, but he has no choice under state's gun laws. Hoyt Jun 2012 #63
Did you even read the article? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #70
This is what he said, if you read to the bottom of the article: Hoyt Jun 2012 #72
In this situation SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #78
It's the law in MO. Car is same as house. If someone unlawfully enters, you are allowed Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #143
Yes ...we all should wait until we are seconds away from dying before using a gun. L0oniX Jun 2012 #147
Yeah, I guess alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #45
Not everyone is into macho feats of physical violence like you are. hack89 Jun 2012 #50
I agree SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #55
Possessing and pulling a gun when you can drive away is also a "macho" action. Hoyt Jun 2012 #64
Bullshit SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #71
How come the biker didn't ride off? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #186
Eh, I can see both positions as having an element of macho swagger to them alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #65
I do not share your perverted sense of fairness. hack89 Jun 2012 #68
I don't share the extremely low value you place on human life alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #114
My life is more important then the guy trying to kill me. hack89 Jun 2012 #117
That is an excellent way to describe both positions. jp11 Jun 2012 #84
I'm in the same boat, EXCEPT FrodosPet Jun 2012 #127
I have loved ones that depend on me hack89 Jun 2012 #131
Why should you gamble that your injuries be minor? Maraya1969 Jun 2012 #141
In my concealed carry class SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #146
You could do that with pepper spray. You don't have to kill Maraya1969 Jun 2012 #148
Pepper spray doesn't always work SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #149
Wow I would sit and think about your views on human life if I were you. Maraya1969 Jun 2012 #171
Thats utter bullshit SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #175
So if I understand correctly sarisataka Jun 2012 #177
I would sit and think about what could happen with a visually impaired driver... Clames Jun 2012 #194
Pepper Spray would have worked. But not "macho" enough for gun culture. Hoyt Jun 2012 #150
Why Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #154
+1 sadbear Jun 2012 #158
If he used pepper spray he likely would not have been able to drive off sarisataka Jun 2012 #151
I'd rather my child experience a little pepper spray sadbear Jun 2012 #159
You have apparently sarisataka Jun 2012 #160
I have and wasn't scarred for life sadbear Jun 2012 #161
First time I have heard sarisataka Jun 2012 #163
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #162
It takes a trial to figure those things out sadbear Jun 2012 #164
And you have no idea how our justice system work SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #165
I'm the one who doesn't understand our justice system? sadbear Jun 2012 #168
Are you really that obtuse? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #170
I have nothing against people defending themselves sadbear Jun 2012 #172
Ok your right SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #176
Exactly. Right on target. Hoyt Jun 2012 #166
No - I want them incapable of hurting me hack89 Jun 2012 #178
I'm a small woman Aerows Jun 2012 #21
I'm mystified by the idea that you have some right to beat up a 65 y.o. man in public. Romulox Jun 2012 #29
A blow to the head can kill you SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #36
Don't initiate violence 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #62
Where do you get the idea that it's permissible to go around punching people? JVS Jun 2012 #77
um, somebody just punched a child rapist to death magical thyme Jun 2012 #85
Well said. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #89
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2012 #101
+1000000 L0oniX Jun 2012 #142
It's not like TV! 1 hit can kill ...expecially if it knocks someone over to the ground... L0oniX Jun 2012 #134
Espicially if the person getting punched SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #135
I'm a female Dorian Gray Jun 2012 #199
The motorcyclist deserved to be shot.. Johnyawl Jun 2012 #5
The driver of the car almost ran the motoryclist's wife off the road do to careless driving. Ikonoklast Jun 2012 #6
Not according to the prosecutor. hack89 Jun 2012 #79
I'm surprised more hasn't been said about the motorcyclist's wife KansDem Jun 2012 #112
If you deliberately try to drive my wife, friend or myself off the road with your car, MadHound Jun 2012 #7
sounds like an argument for stand your ground laws. leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #14
Sound more like a case for the prosecutor to do his job, MadHound Jun 2012 #19
Right On bahrbearian Jun 2012 #24
big bad motorcyclist who "had it coming". WOW the prosecutor said that? leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #27
This idiot DID have it coming. He confronted the driver. And got his dumb ass shot.... Logical Jun 2012 #123
I do not see where it is claimed sarisataka Jun 2012 #86
Where in the hell do you see "deliberately" in this story. It was a mistake.... Logical Jun 2012 #121
Ugh. Sick of the gun humping cowards. If you are gonna get violent, use your damn fists, like men. phleshdef Jun 2012 #15
Some of us are no Meiko Jun 2012 #23
Then don't be trying to run people off the road. phleshdef Jun 2012 #26
I remember reading the story SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #42
I always try to be careful Meiko Jun 2012 #52
Yes, living in NYC I rarely drive anymore, but when I lived in Florida this happened a lot stevenleser Jun 2012 #81
Preach that horse shit to a woman Spoonman Jun 2012 #69
+1 L0oniX Jun 2012 #138
Oh right, because attempting rape is the same thing as a road rage induced squabble. phleshdef Jun 2012 #180
YOUR "horse shit" of "false equivalancy" Spoonman Jun 2012 #183
This entire thread is about a road rage incident. phleshdef Jun 2012 #191
Oh ...so using fists is what a real man does huh? L0oniX Jun 2012 #136
I am a scrawny little dude. I'm 5'9 125 lbs. phleshdef Jun 2012 #181
Your choice SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #184
You don't have to give a flying fuck. It doesn't change the fact that its cowardice. phleshdef Jun 2012 #190
If thats what makes you sleep better at night SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #192
I don't believe carrying a concealed weapon makes someone a coward. phleshdef Jun 2012 #201
Nice reframe. L0oniX Jun 2012 #187
Is that the best you got? I guess I better back off before you try to shoot me. phleshdef Jun 2012 #189
I wouldn't have rolled my window down in the first place Major Nikon Jun 2012 #197
Maybe they're both idiots ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #8
Bingo. Bake Jun 2012 #18
+1 proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #39
Absolutely. jp11 Jun 2012 #54
"...the motorcyclist first reached into his car and punched him...." slackmaster Jun 2012 #9
More details, MadHound Jun 2012 #10
deliberately? the driver wasnt very smart in revealing that leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #11
There were witnesses who said it looked like a deliberate action MadHound Jun 2012 #12
so deliberately is just hearsay or opinion leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #16
No, actually there are witnesses, MadHound Jun 2012 #17
no witness could state, as a fact, what the intentions of the driver were. there are alot of people leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #20
As lawyers like to frequently state... MicaelS Jun 2012 #32
Link? proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #40
Where are you getting this? Dr. Strange Jun 2012 #185
The proper response is to call the police, then. You don't get to beat people in revenge. Romulox Jun 2012 #30
Let's assume for the sake of discussion that it was a deliberate attempt to run the woman off slackmaster Jun 2012 #37
The prosecutor appears to disagree with you hack89 Jun 2012 #76
According to some meat head morons he should have been man enough to punch the biker back ....pffft L0oniX Jun 2012 #137
Right and Wrong in road rage in crazy times? ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #22
Sounds like a toss up....all the more reason to be humble ileus Jun 2012 #25
The motorcyclist is angry because he brought fists to a gun fight. nt Javaman Jun 2012 #28
looks like the guy in the car was in the right belcffub Jun 2012 #33
I don't like the idea of not bringing charges at all treestar Jun 2012 #34
Exactly. Hoyt Jun 2012 #41
Bullshit SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #47
I'm leaning in that direction myself proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #57
Whether it is clear or not treestar Jun 2012 #110
Fair question SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #118
It will be interesting if Randall tries to file a civil suit treestar Jun 2012 #179
I don't think he can SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #182
That sounds like the Fla. law treestar Jun 2012 #193
This is MO SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #195
The DA should have let a jury decide. sadbear Jun 2012 #120
What bullshit SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #122
What do you have against juries? sadbear Jun 2012 #124
What part of no law was broken? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #125
"The elderly man was in fear of his life..." sadbear Jun 2012 #126
No its not SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #128
"How can you have a trial if no laws were violated?" sadbear Jun 2012 #129
The police and DA both determined, after an investigation with plenty of SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #130
I hope no one shoots you... sadbear Jun 2012 #132
I hope not either SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #133
It happens all the time - that's why they write laws in the first place hack89 Jun 2012 #80
My parents live in this county justiceischeap Jun 2012 #48
No your not all good SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #51
Provoke them how? By sitting in the car with your wife and grandson? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #58
Especially an elderly person SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #61
Laying a gun on your lap and shooting someone when you can drive away, deserves at least trial. Hoyt Jun 2012 #66
And what actions would be on trial? OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #73
That's the problem 1/10, law allows one with a gun to shoot people when they could have left. Hoyt Jun 2012 #74
Your really flailing here Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #83
Oh, so now you can shoot an unarmed man and say you didn't know if he were armed? Hoyt Jun 2012 #87
Once again Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #92
The motorcyclist could have driven off too. Kaleva Jun 2012 #91
And he should have, but that doesn't give a man with a gun the right to shoot an unarmed person Hoyt Jun 2012 #96
Stick around until he gets so tired from punching that he collapses in exhaustion? Cave_Johnson Jun 2012 #98
And don't shoot unarmed people who may have "punched" once (and that is in question). Hoyt Jun 2012 #104
So your true colors finally come out , eh, Hoyt? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #106
How many times should I get beaten before I am allowed to defend myself? Cave_Johnson Jun 2012 #111
In this situation roll up windows, mash the accelerator and leave. Hoyt Jun 2012 #115
You got one thing right... Cave_Johnson Jun 2012 #116
One thing about Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #119
The fact that people carry guns scares criminals and big mussel bound fist users ...and L0oniX Jun 2012 #145
The anti gun agenda is obvious ...all over DU. L0oniX Jun 2012 #144
How big was he? Do you know? Hoyt Jun 2012 #152
Alot bigger than the elderly man SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #155
How do you know that? Gun shooter did something immoral. Hoyt Jun 2012 #169
Gun ownership is not my concern. Gun toting and this case is. Hoyt Jun 2012 #153
You really are something else SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #157
People will recognize "your agenda" at some point. Hoyt Jun 2012 #167
Ha Ha Ha thats funny Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #174
Perhaps he did not realize the guy would be assaulting him. OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #103
Well if that were the assumption, why did driver/shooter pull his gun and place it in his lap first? Hoyt Jun 2012 #105
I can't say... Personally, I just keep mine in the open between the two front seats. OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #107
Poor tactical choice to assault older people. OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #67
What do you mean this guy isn't into macho crap -- he carried and pulled a gun first when he could Hoyt Jun 2012 #75
Nice job of totally mis-representing the facts there Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #93
What did I misrepresent? Rather than leaving, driver pulled his gun before cyclist got to his car. Hoyt Jun 2012 #95
Apparently your not reading what I have wrote SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #99
This is a common misconceptoin I've seen you and many other anti's state... OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #100
Deep down I think he knows that SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #102
That's the weird part... Cave_Johnson Jun 2012 #113
I agree with the prosecutor's decision not to file charges rollin74 Jun 2012 #60
I don't feel any sympathy for the 49 year old at all. Kaleva Jun 2012 #82
Neither do I, and it just occurred to me that the subject line conveys a simple but obvious irony slackmaster Jun 2012 #109
He should spit on the DA and punch him n/t Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #88
Coming up #6 on Shocking American Shoot Outs....! Evasporque Jun 2012 #90
“But for the grace of God, I would be a dead man,” JVS Jun 2012 #108
"when any silly driving situation turns into a shooting?" flvegan Jun 2012 #173
I hate to say it, but Randell should just be thankful he's alive Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #188
we don't have all the details dsc Jun 2012 #196
It may be the law, but I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around that sadbear Jun 2012 #200
Hitting someone one can kill or severely injure them. hack89 Jun 2012 #202
We're talking about someone sitting in their car getting hit by someone standing outside of it. sadbear Jun 2012 #203
Google "one punch kills man" and this is a sample of what you get hack89 Jun 2012 #204
Keep your hands on the handbars or on wrapped around the steering wheel and there Raine Jun 2012 #198
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