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heaven05

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118. I must say

Thu Aug 11, 2016, 12:27 PM

Aug 2016

we DO NOT know what threat or words were spoken by the thug/murderer zimmerman to make Trayvon Martin more fearful than he already was because of the murderer zimmerman stalking him. All we have is zpigs testimony.....and the rebuttal witness was dead. zpig could say anything. Which he did and found many fearful people fearful of brown skin that excused his murder, from the police to the final jury of HIS peers that gave him a pass on his murder.

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“There are frigging Black males outside my frigging house with firearms. Please send PD,” [View all] Liberal_in_LA Aug 2016 OP

Oh my God. Another fearful and paranoid white man. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #1

Charged with murder, remanded without bond. MH1 Aug 2016 #2

It only takes one asshole on a jury, though. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #5

NC has the death penalty obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #67

There's something wrong with this person, Moh, Hortensis Aug 2016 #69

Apparently he has had the book thrown at him. He is charged with first degree murder Vattel Aug 2016 #3

I read they were going to pursue the death penalty TexasBushwhacker Aug 2016 #38

I do NOT believe he was afraid. I think he was hunting. nt tblue37 Aug 2016 #18

I beg to differ Lithos Aug 2016 #31

His comments in the 911 call suggest that he was angry that black people were in his neighborhood. tblue37 Aug 2016 #32

Yep Lithos Aug 2016 #52

Fry his ass. brush Aug 2016 #55

Hunting because he lawfully can after TM and SC has SYG provisions. uponit7771 Aug 2016 #68

And Raleigh is in NC, not SC. n/t ms liberty Aug 2016 #96

You might be right. I don't really know in this case, but... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #36

No, not really because of exposure. I never understood that some white people rarely or throughout uponit7771 Aug 2016 #70

Thanks for your feedback! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #125

racist hate of the american nazi party led by trump heaven05 Aug 2016 #114

I'm sorry. It's indeed a bad situation. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #134

I agree. He called 911 to cover his ass TexasBushwhacker Aug 2016 #37

People who are afraid can be unpredictably dangerous struggle4progress Aug 2016 #57

You are 100% correct he was stucturing the 911 call to justify homicide under cover of law Monk06 Aug 2016 #60

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2016 #71

+1 geardaddy Aug 2016 #116

All I have is tears sheshe2 Aug 2016 #4

Black Lives Matter. KMOD Aug 2016 #6

So much this REP Aug 2016 #8

I hold out hope in watching our children. KMOD Aug 2016 #10

Trump and kids. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #12

I won't claim to be immune to society's innate racial prejudices, but at least I was never taught nomorenomore08 Aug 2016 #25

That wasn't fear. That was hatred. nt tblue37 Aug 2016 #19

It just needs to stop. KMOD Aug 2016 #21

Yes, it certainly does! nt tblue37 Aug 2016 #26

Hatred and Fear are interchangeable Lithos Aug 2016 #35

good points Locrian Aug 2016 #110

. fishwax Aug 2016 #23

This Copley jerk is a racist, lying, inbred moron asshole... GReedDiamond Aug 2016 #7

They gave him the ability to have guns rusty quoin Aug 2016 #56

It's better than a Black man having to step into the gutter, and tip his hat as a white passes. alfredo Aug 2016 #120

When I turned Sirius radio on in my car today, Ilsa Aug 2016 #9

locked and loaded, with one of THOSE PEOPLE as a target Skittles Aug 2016 #11

i understand at worst, firing the gun into the air retrowire Aug 2016 #13

And that's only if he had legitimate reason to fear for his own safety. Which he didn't. nomorenomore08 Aug 2016 #27

You do realize that bullet has to come down somewhere, right? cwydro Aug 2016 #76

ahem retrowire Aug 2016 #93

So you're good with some asshat firing a shotgun near a crowd of people at a party? cwydro Aug 2016 #102

i was born and raised here too. retrowire Aug 2016 #104

No, it's not common. cwydro Aug 2016 #105

mkay. retrowire Aug 2016 #109

No idea what that first sentence meant. cwydro Aug 2016 #133

i said at worst. retrowire Aug 2016 #139

buckshot != birdshot (tiny pellets). Buckshot (#00) is 8x 0.330" diameter lead pellets - n/t Locrian Aug 2016 #113

big deal heaven05 Aug 2016 #115

i said at worst. retrowire Aug 2016 #126

don't have to heaven05 Aug 2016 #130

a point for the inability to read nuance retrowire Aug 2016 #132

You do realize shooting into the air in a neighborhood is both dangerous and illegal? obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #82

i live right next to the city of raleigh retrowire Aug 2016 #94

Thank you. cwydro Aug 2016 #101

If the initial reports of the 911 call are accurate, this seems a lot like premeditated murder mythology Aug 2016 #14

LOCK HIM UP! This is as bad as the Florida case where at least, thank God, the shooter.... George II Aug 2016 #15

Killed by a shotgun Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2016 #16

No obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #84

If it has a full barrel anoNY42 Aug 2016 #90

75 yards is usually considered an effective range for a shotgun. Codeine Aug 2016 #91

are you sure you don't mean 75 feet? Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2016 #142

How in the world does this echo the Trayvon Martin case. Was Thomas beating Copley's head Akicita Aug 2016 #17

Was Trayvon really doing that? I am not convinced. Anyway, he had been pursued. raging moderate Aug 2016 #20

yup KMOD Aug 2016 #22

Wrong. You are correct in saying the black person was minding his own business in both cases. The Akicita Aug 2016 #33

And why exactly was Zimmerman stalking Trayvon? KMOD Aug 2016 #40

I have no doubt that Trayvon feared Zimmerman. Yet when they confronted each other it was Trayvon Akicita Aug 2016 #46

The confrontation was because Zimmerman stalked Trayvon. KMOD Aug 2016 #53

Aw Jeezuz what fucking bullshit. Solomon Aug 2016 #58

Stalking isn't an escalation? Would it be OK for Zman to chase a 10th grader girl through a dark uponit7771 Aug 2016 #79

lolz promoting Zimmerman's narrative on DU? obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #87

I've use the cover of a jury decision to validate my biases as well. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #103

Hahaha Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #107

I must say heaven05 Aug 2016 #118

FYI the person that you are responding to is a troll who only emerges in race-related threads to Chakab Aug 2016 #47

Thank you. KMOD Aug 2016 #50

I've sure been noticing the same thing about this poster. montana_hazeleyes Aug 2016 #59

lolz obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #86

According to his friend Trayvon was afraid of Zimmerman csziggy Aug 2016 #122

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2016 #78

We only have Zim's word on that, plus his suspiciously minor "injuries." nomorenomore08 Aug 2016 #29

12 people along with Barack Obama's Justice Department. That's good enough for me. Akicita Aug 2016 #39

Remember that Zim was the one with an actual criminal record, and known history of violent behavior. nomorenomore08 Aug 2016 #42

There were six jurors in that case, and the Justice Department declined to investigate Chakab Aug 2016 #44

After an extensive review. Akicita Aug 2016 #48

Not really. Chakab Aug 2016 #49

Since Zipperhead is the only survivor SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #51

extensive review???? heaven05 Aug 2016 #119

I am not defending anyone. I think Zim is a pig too. I just don't like the comparison to a guy who Akicita Aug 2016 #121

circumstances, maybe heaven05 Aug 2016 #123

There's no evidence whatsoever that Zimmerman fired when Martin was on top of him. Chakab Aug 2016 #45

Murder by panic? JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #61

Trayvon Martin had every right to bash Zimmerman's head into the sidewalk... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #64

Trayvon won the fist fight. It's likely he backed off when he saw the gun, Chakab Aug 2016 #131

I don't doubt it, but with the victim dead, the perp got to walk.... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #135

Because Copley designated a threat and didn't remove himself from the threat when he could uponit7771 Aug 2016 #72

hahahahahahahahahaha still believing Zimmerman's narrative? obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #85

Lovely. Look who skittered out from under the cupboard. Codeine Aug 2016 #92

"Home of the Brave" my ass. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #24

Sadly, had the cops showed up... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #28

Even, perhaps, if he was already dead... Gotta be extra-sure, right? nomorenomore08 Aug 2016 #30

+1, yeap... they would've at least taised him afterwards uponit7771 Aug 2016 #75

I'm almost surprised that the article didn't mention them handcuffing him before... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #43

+1, at least people have enough evidence now to suppose this. When a person laying on the ground uponit7771 Aug 2016 #74

I actually very much doubt that would happen in Raleigh obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #88

Thank you ms liberty Aug 2016 #97

Yes, exactly -- especially around the Triangle area obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #106

The article contained a gofundme link so a mom can bury her child..... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #34

Wow. I gotta give a little to that. KMOD Aug 2016 #41

Another example of racism among white wing gun fanciers. How long will we coddle these cretins? Hoyt Aug 2016 #54

As long as people JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #62

"i'm going to secure the neighborhood" Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #63

+1, that proves they he was hunting uponit7771 Aug 2016 #77

yeah Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #95

People like Copley wouldn't last 10 minutes in my neighborhood. raven mad Aug 2016 #65

another douchcanoe with a gun looking for an excuse to use it. KG Aug 2016 #66

He's gonna rot in jail if he doesn't get the death penalty. In NC you Lee-Lee Aug 2016 #73

+1, the "locked and loaded and going out" could be signs of premeditated murder but I feel he'll jus uponit7771 Aug 2016 #80

Not in NC- leaving your home looking for the confrontation means it's on him Lee-Lee Aug 2016 #128

You can't shoot them if they are breaking in, either obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #89

Incorrect Lee-Lee Aug 2016 #127

This is premediatated murder..... usedtobedemgurl Aug 2016 #81

NC is my home state obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #83

I hope this paranoid idiot doesn't get off scott-free like Zimmerman did. nt raccoon Aug 2016 #98

When this sort of thing happened in Texas in 2007, the shooter got away with it. Paladin Aug 2016 #99

Good gosh, what kind of country are we living in? Thanks for posting. raccoon Aug 2016 #108

It made national news at the time. Absolutely shameful. (nt) Paladin Aug 2016 #111

Yeap, they said he was in the process of protecting someone else's property so it was legal. uponit7771 Aug 2016 #136

I hope to hell this new case turns out better... Paladin Aug 2016 #137

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2016 #140

And he had to KILL them? WTF. nt raccoon Aug 2016 #138

Sounds more unhinged than Zimmerman's 911 call... Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #100

history of amerikkka heaven05 Aug 2016 #112

They are really emboldened aren't they JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #124

The 911 operator should have pointed out to the racist asshat... Xithras Aug 2016 #117

I blame the assholes that exonerated Zimmy, both the jury AND the public . . . HughBeaumont Aug 2016 #129

Oh God this is so painful rbrnmw Aug 2016 #141