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13. It's not pretty......

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:12 PM

Aug 2016

and it should not be encouraged by whatever institution but.......meh.

It's a good learning experience for all.

Some people prefer others who resemble them. They aren't the best of us........but they exist.

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Debate Flares After Black College Students Seek A Non-White Roommate [View all] Purveyor Aug 2016 OP

Snowflakerry bluestateguy Aug 2016 #1

Nonsense Haveadream Aug 2016 #55

Nope. This is canonical snowflakery. Loki Liesmith Aug 2016 #61

nope- little snowflakes who want their "safe space" - of course assholes come in all forms snooper2 Aug 2016 #235

White people astounded that not everyone wants to be around them all the time mwrguy Aug 2016 #2

If someone doesn't want me to be around them FrodosPet Aug 2016 #10

Exactly mwrguy Aug 2016 #25

Oh come on. That's some racist shit. phleshdef Aug 2016 #21

and you know it's the first time.....how? Skittles Aug 2016 #26

Agree with your last sentence completely... whathehell Aug 2016 #52

Would you take that same attitude toward a white student whathehell Aug 2016 #51

That's what I've been saying too. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #77

"The first time their 'privilege' is challenged and they don't know what to do" whathehell Aug 2016 #85

Yes, we're not talking public accommodation here, we're talking about one's home Warpy Aug 2016 #109

You're right. So when I rent a room in my home... meaculpa2011 Aug 2016 #213

Yeah, you probably could but you'd get as much flack as these people are Warpy Aug 2016 #222

In NYC I can't even say... meaculpa2011 Aug 2016 #223

What did you change it to?... TeeYiYi Aug 2016 #224

Yes. n/t meaculpa2011 Aug 2016 #231

I would wear a Burka and apply LOL snooper2 Aug 2016 #236

I'm amazed half my generation can function in the real world. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #3

It's funny that segregation is accepted and encouraged if it's rebranded in benign way. Oneironaut Aug 2016 #4

It's not really segregation. ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #6

No big deal yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #9

Perhaps, but I still wouldn't care. ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #16

Theres a term that would be used for that. beevul Aug 2016 #19

Of course.. whathehell Aug 2016 #94

Halloween costumes on the Yale campus were a personal thing too. Or at least they used to be. MadDAsHell Aug 2016 #102

People getting pissed off or upset is a reality of personal choices. ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #120

the examples you give are based primarily on sexusl attraction whathehell Aug 2016 #210

I'm not talking about mutual attraction, ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #215

this isn't fucking segregation. i get tired if these outrages if a POC JI7 Aug 2016 #14

Oh the irony, some of the very ethic group that has purposely done self-segregation . . . brush Aug 2016 #30

The whole ' bigotry is ok for me but not for thee' thing is wearing thin.... TipTok Aug 2016 #35

sorry, but white people are not being discriminated institutionally and denied access JI7 Aug 2016 #36

I didn't say systematic discrimination... TipTok Aug 2016 #37

Yup.. whathehell Aug 2016 #53

If people are arranging their own housing, they should be able to select roommates petronius Aug 2016 #5

You're right. Igel Aug 2016 #24

They can do whatever they like Loki Liesmith Aug 2016 #63

That is true kcr Aug 2016 #79

They certainly have the legal 'right', but that's not the point whathehell Aug 2016 #84

many people know that; they deliberately try to change the subject. nt TheFrenchRazor Aug 2016 #167

Of course...The poster to whom I was replying claims that whathehell Aug 2016 #205

Tempest in a teapot. Aristus Aug 2016 #7

When I started my freshman year in '68 panader0 Aug 2016 #8

Nice. Skin color is a superficial difference. Chemisse Aug 2016 #144

I think skin color is profound difference. ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #150

I agree that it makes a profound difference in one's life. Chemisse Aug 2016 #152

People who are marginalized often like to be around ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #156

The way you stated this makes a lot of sense. Chemisse Aug 2016 #160

I don't consider it segregation unless... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #11

Im sure the KKK won't care if minorities want to live only with themselves davidn3600 Aug 2016 #60

Forced busing didn't work out well. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #65

Bingo! nt MrScorpio Aug 2016 #76

Race is a major socio-political issue right now loyalsister Aug 2016 #114

Isn't that something to work out in the interview process? You don't want a clash of personalities.. Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #121

Why waste the time? loyalsister Aug 2016 #136

All that displays is prejudice towards a group of people for a characteristic they have no control.. Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #143

Are there really not enough people with that characteristic loyalsister Aug 2016 #159

I'm sorry, that rings false to me, I mean, yes, with effort, anyone can choose to only... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #168

It is numerically impossible to not interact with white people loyalsister Aug 2016 #174

And? Is this supposed to be a point of concern? Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #175

You said it rang false loyalsister Aug 2016 #182

I said it rang false because it is false, unless you move to a location below a certain... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #186

Oh please, KMOD Aug 2016 #192

Totally agree... a la izquierda Aug 2016 #250

Dorm rooms can be pretty small. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #12

It does not seem to be about dorms or university-owned housing at all petronius Aug 2016 #15

Ahh, yes. I overlooked that. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #22

Hi Poin.. whathehell Aug 2016 #89

Hi back at ya. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #90

You betcha.. whathehell Aug 2016 #92

You know it... MrScorpio Aug 2016 #45

You must have been in service later than I was. 1939 Aug 2016 #62

I was in the Air Force MrScorpio Aug 2016 #75

It's not pretty...... Red Mountain Aug 2016 #13

Plain prejudice and bigotry. romanic Aug 2016 #17

Sanctioned bigotry. kiva Aug 2016 #18

There's nothing wrong with it The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #20

I'm sure there would be no outrage over a "whites only" ad. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #23

Without a doubt The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #46

Welp, I'm African American and I wouldn't want a underthematrix Aug 2016 #27

That's interesting. I have observed over the years at workplaces that... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #57

Sexism abounds.. whathehell Aug 2016 #103

Not all white women are the same. athena Aug 2016 #81

Exactly. Chemisse Aug 2016 #155

Sexist much? whathehell Aug 2016 #88

Why? I am asking not to snark but to understand. uppityperson Aug 2016 #187

What if you did get a white male roommate and he was really hot, I mean, SMOKING snooper2 Aug 2016 #237

The level of cognitive dissonance on this issue is astounding. tymorial Aug 2016 #28

yup Skittles Aug 2016 #34

Doublethink shadowrider Aug 2016 #54

I'm not so sure. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #64

Sounds like he did white people a favor. linuxman Aug 2016 #29

That's racist as all hell. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #31

If the reverse statement is unacceptable, that should be a clue that it might not be OK. WillowTree Aug 2016 #32

True... deathrind Aug 2016 #191

Brown v Board of Education calm_thinker Aug 2016 #33

Unfortunately, some whites can't take it when they find out that they're not universally loved MrScorpio Aug 2016 #38

What's the thought process there? TipTok Aug 2016 #39

The problem is based in how white supremacy functions. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #40

Total horseshit melman Aug 2016 #42

See, this is the white fragility that I was talking about MrScorpio Aug 2016 #44

For every comment you make, just reverse it and see what it sounds like Democat Aug 2016 #48

See, the thing is that I've posted a couple of articles which went into explaining white fragility MrScorpio Aug 2016 #49

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #56

This claim of white fragility is an awesome silencing tactic Loki Liesmith Aug 2016 #66

White people are quite welcome to discuss the phenomena of white fragility, as far as I'm concerned MrScorpio Aug 2016 #72

Still waiting for calm or intelligent... TipTok Aug 2016 #78

I've already pointed out the relevance of white supremacy and white privilege here. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #82

If the 'bigger picture' encourages racism... TipTok Aug 2016 #124

Say you had the opposite treestar Aug 2016 #126

Well, Obama never had any other option MrScorpio Aug 2016 #140

I love your racial posts. ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #135

Discuss it?...Good luck finding any who even take it seriously. whathehell Aug 2016 #99

That's a problem, isn't it? MrScorpio Aug 2016 #116

Some ideas are just too silly to be taken seriously mythology Aug 2016 #166

What's interesting here is that no one has asked me... MrScorpio Aug 2016 #180

Not at all, , because most don't identify with it whathehell Aug 2016 #217

I've posted about male privilege, feminism and abortion before, in both general and specific terms MrScorpio Aug 2016 #225

Yes, you certainly have...I haven't seen any of these before...Thanks for providing them. whathehell Aug 2016 #226

"a few"... TeeYiYi Aug 2016 #227

I had some white fragility little over a month ago... snooper2 Aug 2016 #238

I'm glad to see that you made your way through that experience. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #239

Bingo! whathehell Aug 2016 #96

The entire concept of "safe spaces" is prima facie evidence of said fragility (nt) LongtimeAZDem Aug 2016 #104

Good point. whathehell Aug 2016 #105

Your own home can be classified as a 'safe space' MrScorpio Aug 2016 #118

Straw Man, Begging the Question, Circular Reasoning, and Loaded Question LongtimeAZDem Aug 2016 #165

But weren't you doing the same as well? MrScorpio Aug 2016 #181

One would think the people suffering from fragility would need the safe spaces to protect them. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #169

LOL..Funny, how it's only Whites who are 'fragile' when they whathehell Aug 2016 #91

White fragility isn't about whites being discriminated against MrScorpio Aug 2016 #107

No, of course not..I'm not even sure you believe it's a possiblity. whathehell Aug 2016 #108

Hell, even my very white grandmother knew the source for such things was enforced ghettoization... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #119

Lol...Say what? whathehell Aug 2016 #204

Yeah, and the guy who brutalizes women may have had a lousy mother whathehell Aug 2016 #208

So, what is your argument? That black people are intrinsically more violent? Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #211

What a bizarre conclusion,.. No,, I don't believe in inate differences whathehell Aug 2016 #212

So what are you saying, you avoid black people due to cultural reasons? Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #216

Well, why were those three students of color "avoiding" whathehell Aug 2016 #218

I didn't say I was ok with it. Where did I say that? n/t Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #219

No, but you're putting me on the defense about it, while refusing to do the whathehell Aug 2016 #220

What needs to be said is that you're not entitled to dictate how POCs respond to you MrScorpio Aug 2016 #123

In the same breath, you rhapsodize about how white people can't know what it's like to be black... Joe the Revelator Aug 2016 #229

Unfortunately, the problem with that POV... MrScorpio Aug 2016 #230

Again, your stance is that POC can know all there is to know about white ppl, to the point.... Joe the Revelator Aug 2016 #248

I'm saying that, as a matter of survival, in an overtly and covertly white supremacist society... MrScorpio Aug 2016 #249

Exactly what..Thank you. whathehell Aug 2016 #242

Would it be acceptable.... Adrahil Aug 2016 #58

The analogy isn't applicable here... We're talking about roommates. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #69

I think it does. Adrahil Aug 2016 #95

The thing is here, is that quite often... MrScorpio Aug 2016 #115

I'll address the points. Adrahil Aug 2016 #125

Believe or not I know that citing rednecks can be a bad example MrScorpio Aug 2016 #137

I don't think I am. Adrahil Aug 2016 #139

You think of it as exclusion. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #141

Most people want to be rich too, even if they decry the 1% The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #164

Well for one, it's not my definition, it's theirs MrScorpio Aug 2016 #183

Yeah, white, black, liberal, conservative, rich, poor, etc The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #221

No, but white students are as entitled to complain about it as blacks when the situation is reversed whathehell Aug 2016 #243

Ah, the old "reverse racism" trope MrScorpio Aug 2016 #247

Nice attempt to discredit the concept by using words like "trope", but it doesn't work.. whathehell Aug 2016 #251

Obviously, this is another in a long series of conversations on DU... MrScorpio Aug 2016 #253

It's the same shoe, on the same foot. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2016 #71

Actually, it's not the same thing. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #74

None of that is relevant, they are excluding people based solely on the color of their skin... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #93

There's a cultural element as well MrScorpio Aug 2016 #110

I think you put far too much emphasis on these nebulous "cultures" that aren't monolithic... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #117

I'm on my iPod right now MrScorpio Aug 2016 #132

Racism comes in two primary forms: institutional and personally mediated. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2016 #142

Racism only exists as a system MrScorpio Aug 2016 #145

Do they (and you) understand Chemisse Aug 2016 #151

Living as a person of color in this country... MrScorpio Aug 2016 #184

Take it up with Dr Jones lumberjack_jeff Aug 2016 #153

Did you even read that piece MrScorpio Aug 2016 #185

Nonsense...You may be able to justify black separateness as non-racist whathehell Aug 2016 #244

How have you ever been harmed by a PoC in power just because you were white? MrScorpio Aug 2016 #246

Your careful, deliberate parsing of language to excuse discrimination by persons of color... MadDAsHell Aug 2016 #113

I'm not quoting the Bible here MrScorpio Aug 2016 #131

It helps when there is a whole industry... TipTok Aug 2016 #188

I don't think it has to do with that at all treestar Aug 2016 #147

What if someone like Bernie Sanders Shankapotomus Aug 2016 #41

Racism, period. B Calm Aug 2016 #43

I agree. Rustyeye77 Aug 2016 #86

Racism Democat Aug 2016 #47

^^^^^ (nt) LongtimeAZDem Aug 2016 #101

Re-reading the article and reading some of the quotes from students romanic Aug 2016 #50

the college president spoke against it Enrique Aug 2016 #129

After decades of fighting against segregation........ davidn3600 Aug 2016 #59

The universal right of access stops... FrodosPet Aug 2016 #73

What you say is true, but it doesn't immunize them from criticisms of racism. n/t Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #97

These three students are not "an institution". "POC only" seems fine in an advert. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2016 #67

What if white students put in advert they only wanted white applicants and no POC LisaL Aug 2016 #87

The cries of "Racism"! would be deafening whathehell Aug 2016 #98

Some in this thread are labeling the situation as racist. ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #154

Some =/= deafening Lancero Aug 2016 #172

You got me there. ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #173

It wouldn't be "some", it would be "most", or to put it another way, whathehell Aug 2016 #252

I agree insofar as those who are calling it that, whathehell Aug 2016 #206

It's a bias, but there's tons of context behind the bias. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #214

Give me a good reason to care. Rex Aug 2016 #68

They'll get see racism everyday...when they look in the mirror. FLPanhandle Aug 2016 #70

For university owned housing, you don't get to make such a request. Off campus you do. UMTerp01 Aug 2016 #80

This is kinda my view of it Chitown Kev Aug 2016 #256

She is doing applicants a favor. Who would want to live with a bunch of racists? Throd Aug 2016 #83

Yup.. whathehell Aug 2016 #100

Interested to hear what all the people saying it's ok because it's not "institutionalized"... MadDAsHell Aug 2016 #106

It's a dodge.. whathehell Aug 2016 #111

What's ironic about this is that if legal action took place... MadDAsHell Aug 2016 #112

We didn't have such terminology when I went to college DFW Aug 2016 #122

Check out this listing of apartments in NYC looking for female roommate only stevenleser Aug 2016 #127

True they could get a fourth POC treestar Aug 2016 #148

I spent today at a work event revolving around diversity tammywammy Aug 2016 #128

I agree; the progress was not made by AA people treestar Aug 2016 #146

Freedom and justice for all? Then why the need for safe spaces? guillaumeb Aug 2016 #130

don't understand the angst DustyJoe Aug 2016 #133

Amazing amount of white privilege in this thread. egduj Aug 2016 #134

even more hypocrisy FLPanhandle Aug 2016 #157

I wouldn't be howling. ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #161

And that has been correctly labeled as racist and wrong many times. Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #170

There's no such thing as right or wrong in this context. ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #171

I think it depends on how far the prejudice against white people extends. Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #176

Sure, but I don't think we have access to that information ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #177

True, but its been my observation that if you are racist in one area, its generally not confined... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #179

It's a blizzard of white privilege mwrguy Aug 2016 #163

I can dig it... MrScorpio Aug 2016 #196

They have the right to choose whatever roommate they want get the red out Aug 2016 #138

so it would be perfectly acceptable to you if someone put 'Whites Only' on the same time of request? Amishman Aug 2016 #158

Yes. ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #162

It would not be acceptable get the red out Aug 2016 #194

Many gay and trans folks I know like to live with ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #149

And here I thought college was to learn new things whistler162 Aug 2016 #178

Equal Housing Opportunity Act. mwooldri Aug 2016 #189

"POC Only�... TeeYiYi Aug 2016 #190

This bigotry is to be expected with the racial demagoguery seen from extremists Taitertots Aug 2016 #193

You're comparing a black college student who wants a black roommate to the Klan? MrScorpio Aug 2016 #195

When they advocate the same policies, they deserve the same condemnation Taitertots Aug 2016 #198

You are aware that the Klan actually lynched black people for being black, right? MrScorpio Aug 2016 #199

David Duke hasn't lynched anyone. I said "David Duke level". Taitertots Aug 2016 #200

What, now you're defending David Duke? Really? MrScorpio Aug 2016 #201

Defending him!? I'm using him as a pejorative for racists. Taitertots Aug 2016 #202

You're using a really bad example to make a point MrScorpio Aug 2016 #203

You're pettifogging and defending racial isolation/segregation Taitertots Aug 2016 #207

You know, once you find yourself stuck deep in a hole... MrScorpio Aug 2016 #209

They're not in a hole melman Aug 2016 #232

Their brand of racism is ok... TipTok Aug 2016 #233

You got it. Bigots always try the hardest to create justification for their bigotry. Taitertots Aug 2016 #254

So, you're also endorsing this ludicrously bad analogy as well? MrScorpio Aug 2016 #234

How dreadful. romanic Aug 2016 #255

Well, I'm sorry to upset your somewhat delicate sensibilities here MrScorpio Aug 2016 #257

I was referring to your general approach and reactions in this thread. romanic Aug 2016 #258

I'm quite sure that most people who are familiar me over these last 14 years on DU MrScorpio Aug 2016 #259

I was passed over to rent a room in SF because I'm straight. Quantess Aug 2016 #197

Fake problem. cheapdate Aug 2016 #228

Big deal. Same if white students only want white roommates. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #240

public postings usually a very risky way to go about seeking roommates geek tragedy Aug 2016 #241

I think it is a reasonable and understandable request. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #245