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kcr

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21. I understand what a lease is. Really. I do.

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 11:18 AM

Aug 2016

Totally get it, I can assure you.

This ranch spans 5 counties. Was owned by the same family about as long as Texas has been a state. I think Rhode Island is barely larger than this place. So that's what I mean when I say this isn't the typical landlord/tenant situation. This is almost like, if some little country decided it didn't want to be a country somewhere, and told everyone on it to get off and go live somewhere else. So, not typical stoopid dumb dumb poor renters, okay?

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Stan Kroenke tells hundreds of fixed income residents in Texas to get off his newly-bought land [View all] modem77 Aug 2016 OP

Disgusting. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #1

It's Texas. These people will get no help or relief. Ilsa Aug 2016 #2

Oh, yeah. I see a very familiar pattern. Paladin Aug 2016 #15

Born, raised, worked, home, such as it is. NT Ilsa Aug 2016 #17

hahahaha TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2016 #53

Yeah, those Californians are such good guys TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2016 #54

Damn, as Miley Cyrus would say- Sweet Burn snooper2 Aug 2016 #67

Why? Glamrock Aug 2016 #3

Well, the bundy bunch wants to do the same thing; graze their herds and animals for free underahedgerow Aug 2016 #59

Listen man Glamrock Aug 2016 #61

It's his land, like it or not. linuxman Aug 2016 #4

I know, right? It's so moronic to not be able to afford to own land. kcr Aug 2016 #5

No, it's moronic to sink your life saving into building a house on land you don't own. linuxman Aug 2016 #8

Oh, are they just like kids crying because their sandcastle got washed away? kcr Aug 2016 #10

I'm sorry you don't understand the analogy. linuxman Aug 2016 #11

Living on land you don't own is the same as building a sand castle... Okay then. kcr Aug 2016 #16

That's why it's called an analogy. linuxman Aug 2016 #23

I don't think these people felt they had any special claim on the land. kcr Aug 2016 #27

They built houses on it. Straw Man Aug 2016 #41

We're not talking about a game of plant the flag, here. kcr Aug 2016 #42

What are you talking about? Straw Man Aug 2016 #45

Would you put a new set of tires on a rental car? philosslayer Aug 2016 #55

I feel terrible for them but agree. alphafemale Aug 2016 #14

This was not a typical situation, though. kcr Aug 2016 #18

It was leased land. A lease has no real guarantee. alphafemale Aug 2016 #20

I understand what a lease is. Really. I do. kcr Aug 2016 #21

So screw the owner's property rights because it's a big parcel, I suppose. linuxman Aug 2016 #25

No kcr Aug 2016 #26

I'm not calling them stupid for losing their homes, linuxman Aug 2016 #28

So, they were supposed to assume it would happen one day kcr Aug 2016 #29

Precedent and history are fine factors in decision making. linuxman Aug 2016 #33

So, are they factors in decision making, or aren't they? kcr Aug 2016 #34

Eminent domain stipulates that you're compensated with fair market value for the land & structures linuxman Aug 2016 #35

That's fine if the market is at the same rate it was when you bought kcr Aug 2016 #36

What if I had wheels? I'd be a wagon. linuxman Aug 2016 #37

If there is eminant domain, they pay me the fair value of my house Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #51

the more popular sentiment being rationalized is simply screw the idiots who built on the land LanternWaste Aug 2016 #64

Agreed. linuxman Aug 2016 #22

Most of them are very likely mobile homes Warpy Aug 2016 #52

yeah... screw 'em. . . . . . annabanana Aug 2016 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author kcr Aug 2016 #7

No need. Sounds like they screwed their selves. linuxman Aug 2016 #9

Yup. Why would you build a home on land with a short term lease? underahedgerow Aug 2016 #62

Capitalist pigs like Kroenke can go fuck themselves, and fuck their "property". Odin2005 Aug 2016 #39

LOL, right. linuxman Aug 2016 #40

Yeah it's terrible to expect people to have common decency. Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #50

Hard to feel any outrage FLPanhandle Aug 2016 #12

it is a sad situation, but you are absolutely correct DrDan Aug 2016 #19

I don't understand why this is even a news story Nevernose Aug 2016 #13

6 months notice. 7wo7rees Aug 2016 #31

He says he's returning the land to it's natural state NickB79 Aug 2016 #24

Earth First, poor people last... Angel Martin Aug 2016 #43

He will probably develop it into hotels and strip malls or some way for him to make money. modem77 Aug 2016 #47

Somewhere, there's an environmentalist TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2016 #56

If he was really doing it to restore the environment, I'd applaud the move. Xithras Aug 2016 #69

The man's name is Enos, NOT "Stan"...and he is human refuse in living form. Moostache Aug 2016 #30

A better way would have been for Krinkle-Krisp to purchase development rights... Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #49

If it went the other way w'd be upset. Igel Aug 2016 #32

Worthless piece of shit screwing over people, you don't say, BTW, I'm a St. Louisan, fuck this... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #38

this guy has form, I'll give him that Angel Martin Aug 2016 #44

Who builds a house on land they don't own?? X_Digger Aug 2016 #46

Lessees may have a shot under the legal "theory of laches..." Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #48

Don't see how that would apply since Kroenke just bought the property in February. WillowTree Aug 2016 #57

My new favorite Enos Kroenke anecdote: Moostache Aug 2016 #58

But he's just a good Texan, a good conservative, a good Christian n/t Matrosov Aug 2016 #60

No, he's not. TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2016 #63

Actually he was born and lives in Missouri, Revanchist Aug 2016 #66

Well, he's not a Texan! TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2016 #68

if i understand correctly homeowners in hawaii also lease their land dembotoz Aug 2016 #65

So if I'm undersranding the consensus here....... WillowTree Aug 2016 #70