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jberryhill

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24. So...

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 07:16 PM

Jun 2012

You are glad he's being charged, even if he did not violate the law. Is that correct?

I have no opinion on whether what he did constitutes "cruelty" as defined by the relevant New Jersey statute, since it is a mile long.

But, in general, it is your belief that actions should be simply deemed illegal, even if there is no statue which renders it that way, and that criminal penalties should attach to unwritten laws made up to fit the mood?

What was the "cruel" part in your opinion? Shooting them, or hanging them up after they were dead?

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N.J. man allegedly killed squirrels with BB gun, hung them on fence [View all] Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 OP

That's a great idea to keep them out of my tomatoes Gman Jun 2012 #1

. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #2

You'd have to stay on post all night slackmaster Jun 2012 #9

According to what I've read and turned out to be pretty much true Gman Jun 2012 #101

I left a game camera in my back yard last summer when rats and mice were destroying my garden slackmaster Jun 2012 #102

That sounds like my last year's garden disaster Gman Jun 2012 #109

Our cat Odysseus is a mass murderer. UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #110

So is Samantha the Gopher Grabber, but she can't keep up with the rats slackmaster Jun 2012 #111

Ody has brought home big rats. UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #112

Good for him Gman Jun 2012 #116

My cat does that when it's hot. Lies about in the sink like it's a special cat bed Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #118

That's probably the reason. UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #119

I think the guy that did that is one sick fuck. The squirrels were here long before... BlueJazz Jun 2012 #3

Yes indeed. They were here even before Native Americans. slackmaster Jun 2012 #6

Not those particular squirrels, however. Bake Jun 2012 #47

me too! Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #14

Squirrels own land? Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #43

Yes they do...or else the little fuckers showed me a forged deed. BlueJazz Jun 2012 #103

they also taste good... belcffub Jun 2012 #66

It would have been fine if he had skinned and cleaned them right after killing each one.... snooper2 Jun 2012 #88

but they do taste so good.... Dan Jun 2012 #114

Shoulda just buried them. Brickbat Jun 2012 #4

I guess he thought the carcasses would deter other squirrels? jberryhill Jun 2012 #13

My first thought too :0) siligut Jun 2012 #25

That is the case with some other animals. RebelOne Jun 2012 #39

If it worked for squirrels, I doubt there would be so many hanging on the fence. siligut Jun 2012 #49

Thumbs up to the animal activists. n/t RebelOne Jun 2012 #60

Crows are scary-smart, have a long memory and studies show they understand concepts haele Jun 2012 #117

Since when is it illegal to kill squirrels? Should we call the police about the ones in the road? CBGLuthier Jun 2012 #5

There are squirrel hunting seasons HarveyDarkey Jun 2012 #65

Sounds like he was standing his ground. Renew Deal Jun 2012 #7

I feel really bad for snorting at this. Chorophyll Jun 2012 #51

LOL! tallahasseedem Jun 2012 #86

Why didn't he make stew? badtoworse Jun 2012 #8

Squirrels in the attic and walls are dangerous Tx4obama Jun 2012 #10

Yep Aerows Jun 2012 #23

I had rats that chewed electrical wires in my house and it cost RebelOne Jun 2012 #41

I had squirrels damage two of my vehicles. Denninmi Jun 2012 #67

I think incarceration is excessive punishment for killing vermin that aren't even endangered slackmaster Jun 2012 #11

Is it illegal to shoot them with a BB gun? jberryhill Jun 2012 #12

may not be illegal, but it's cruel. Glad he's being charged Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #18

So... jberryhill Jun 2012 #24

it's cruel to kill animals for revenge. Also - you want the neighborhood kids to see that? Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #28

Whether someone committed a crime jberryhill Jun 2012 #31

why not I hang my deer in the driveway... belcffub Jun 2012 #63

Why do they keep saying "animal or creature"? OriginalGeek Jun 2012 #74

Those "mice with human brains" Christine O'Donnell was on about, I guess jberryhill Jun 2012 #76

A bargain! OriginalGeek Jun 2012 #77

It keeps out the riff-raff jberryhill Jun 2012 #81

"...any living animal OR CREATURE..." Are human beans considered "creatures?" Buns_of_Fire Jun 2012 #84

I imagine it's just the "needlessly kill" at the very beginning, and there's a bit of case petronius Jun 2012 #91

"this is largely a "what a fuckin' weirdo!" charge" jberryhill Jun 2012 #95

Death to TreeRats!!! greytdemocrat Jun 2012 #15

My dogs know not to chase squirrels. They chase rabbits out of the garden but don't hurt them. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #16

What a guy. Squirrels are ferocious predators known to devour pitbulls and children. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #17

+1 Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #19

They do carry rabies Aerows Jun 2012 #26

Extremely rare. Like once every 12 years according to the CDC. Logical Jun 2012 #56

It's rare Aerows Jun 2012 #71

raccoons seem to be the worse. Scary! Logical Jun 2012 #72

Has there even ever been a case of squirrels found with rabies? obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #59

I guess fixing the hole in the side of his house was just... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #20

"Baird was frustrated because the squirrels were crawling through a hole in the side of his house" bupkus Jun 2012 #21

That is not as easy as it sounds ... Tx4obama Jun 2012 #27

I have a cat Aerows Jun 2012 #22

cats rule! Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #29

We have an indoor cat OriginalGeek Jun 2012 #75

A BB gun will kill them? TheCowsCameHome Jun 2012 #30

Some spring powered BB guns would be a bit marginal. Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #46

Probably not your average Red Ryder BB gun, no Major Nikon Jun 2012 #78

Dinner! Yes, we have shot them with BB guns - lynne Jun 2012 #32

. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #33

Red squirrels are often displaced by the grey squirrel who is said to be a jp11 Jun 2012 #37

Awwww! I can't help it, I have always loved Squirrels. smirkymonkey Jun 2012 #100

And the squirrels' dicks are STILL bigger than his MotherPetrie Jun 2012 #34

lol obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #53

Not a fan, but... TroglodyteScholar Jun 2012 #35

My wife and I feed the squirrels in our yard. MineralMan Jun 2012 #36

So do I. I throw my stale bread out in the yard. n/t RebelOne Jun 2012 #62

I think allegedly since he hadn't gone to court yet jp11 Jun 2012 #38

In the South, that's considered dinner... cynatnite Jun 2012 #40

Would he have been charged if he ate them? Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #42

Would a BB gun kill a squirrel outright? obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #44

If that's animal cruelty, then what is this? Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #45

A lot of fun? Fla_Democrat Jun 2012 #50

First time i saw that, I thought for sure it had to be a joke. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #52

That's Caddyshack scaled down for home use slackmaster Jun 2012 #115

In GA outside of the city limits the preferred squirrel slayer is a 10/22, but inside.... aikoaiko Jun 2012 #48

I guess calling Animal Control for advice... Chorophyll Jun 2012 #54

Is useless. lapislzi Jun 2012 #87

Fair enough. Chorophyll Jun 2012 #90

OTOH, a friend swears by AC/DC lapislzi Jun 2012 #96

I love that idea, but ALL of my neighbors have babies. Chorophyll Jun 2012 #99

Didya hear about that squirrel HBO got in trouble for? Octafish Jun 2012 #55

Hunters go squirrel hunting. Are they cruel also? Lint Head Jun 2012 #57

Why didn't he just fix the hole? EC Jun 2012 #58

I said that upthread -- fix the hole! obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #61

No kidding... n/t EC Jun 2012 #69

See comment #27 n/t Tx4obama Jun 2012 #73

While I think this may be cruelty obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #64

Tree rats. Who knew you could be charged with animal cruelty for killing squirrels? notadmblnd Jun 2012 #68

You'd have to be an absolute idiot flvegan Jun 2012 #80

Now is that what I said? notadmblnd Jun 2012 #82

Yes, it is. flvegan Jun 2012 #108

The outrage seems to be more with how he treated the bodies 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #92

In numbers Meiko Jun 2012 #70

Animal cruelty apologists on DU always make me rethink some things. flvegan Jun 2012 #79

Have you ever tried squirrel? snooper2 Jun 2012 #89

yeah. DU surprises me sometimes. and not in a good way. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #94

Who might they be? jberryhill Jun 2012 #97

I'm not saying I'd go to that extreme Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #83

I was going to do that myself AngryAmish Jun 2012 #85

I use a Gamo pellet gun on my squirrels. deaniac21 Jun 2012 #93

Good thing that he has to pay for it Beringia Jun 2012 #98

Did he hang them as a warning to other squirrels? n/t hughee99 Jun 2012 #104

I think the display is a bit much bluedeminredstate Jun 2012 #105

pin the picture on your house. That will stop 'em Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #106

Ha! bluedeminredstate Jun 2012 #107

Who? Paulie Walnuts? RagAss Jun 2012 #113

What I would have done is cut their heads off and put them in the yard on sticks...... Cronkite Jun 2012 #120