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Squinch

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23. It is all that and something else too. I'm floored by the keyboard

Reply to still_one (Reply #21)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 11:28 AM

Aug 2016

warriors who talk as if they are holding the reins to Hillary's actions, forcing a reluctant Hillary into action that she otherwise wouldn't take.

The fact is that she was fighting for the vast majority of these issues long before these people ever thought about them, and they couldn't influence their way out of a paper bag.

It's completely ridiculous. It's just more of that weird delusion that everything must revolve around them.

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How progressives are putting Hillary Clinton in a tough spot on trade (again) [View all] cali Aug 2016 OP

progressives? stonecutter357 Aug 2016 #1

No. Like virtually every Congressional liberal. cali Aug 2016 #2

... here. Yep. demmiblue Aug 2016 #10

You'll be happy to know we all get your message Hortensis Aug 2016 #24

Highly concerned Cary Aug 2016 #3

I believe Clinton now has herself in a position... NCTraveler Aug 2016 #4

Right. I'd like to see a list of what she thinks should be changed. cali Aug 2016 #5

I think Ryan and McConnell are doing it in hopes of a Republican President. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #8

I predict if it sails through without major changes in several chapters, including I/P cali Aug 2016 #11

I would prefer the TPP to happen, however it is VITAL that Hillary follows through with what she has OnDoutside Aug 2016 #6

A Typical Washington Post Article trying to imply negative dispersions on Hillary, by a still_one Aug 2016 #7

Yes, it's totally irrational to believe that Clinton would flip flop on TPP Angel Martin Aug 2016 #9

What is irrational is the assumption that despite what she has repeatedly been saying for months is still_one Aug 2016 #20

I'm curious... what kind of trade deals do these "progressives" support? Adrahil Aug 2016 #12

Progressives aren't against fair trade deals. The TPP is not a fair trade deal. It's corporate laws think Aug 2016 #15

I'm not arguing about that. Adrahil Aug 2016 #17

I suspect they would support a trade deal like FDR/Truman's International Trade Organization. pampango Aug 2016 #16

I'd support that.... Adrahil Aug 2016 #18

Times have changed. If Obama dusted off the old FDR/Truman ITO agreement, word-for-word, it would pampango Aug 2016 #19

Her specific objections to TPP aren't clear. All politicians maintain a lot of degrees of freedom HereSince1628 Aug 2016 #13

What is the tough spot that you are talking about? She has come out against it. Squinch Aug 2016 #14

It is damn if you do and damn if you don't. If Hillary said day, her critics would say she meant still_one Aug 2016 #21

I wish I could upvote this post. KitSileya Aug 2016 #22

It is all that and something else too. I'm floored by the keyboard Squinch Aug 2016 #23