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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. I've been saying this since, well, forever...
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:08 AM
Aug 2016

The TPP has become one of those articles of faith and buzzwords within certain parts of the Left that do not understand the intricacies of trade, diplomacy, and regional power blocs. It is being blamed for our internal labor and rights issues that will actually be the worse without it. It is also being looked at as another aspect of American hegemony, which is apparently a bad thing.

China is enormous, and now a direct competitor to us. This is not new, or necessarily a bad thing, since we are dealing quite well with the EU, Japan, and S. Korea. Most people would say competition with them is working out quite well for everyone. China, however, is in the same place we were not along ago-- much larger than the competition and and able to simply push everyone around to get its way. They are pushing the competition to new, and dangerous, levels.

Let's say it is China's day, and they should be on the world's stage as a major player. Fine, but not at the expense of its neighbors, and not radically upsetting whatever we have achieved so far,

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TPP is about constraining g China, not trade or economics Cicada Aug 2016 #1
What a racist thing to say. Shame on you n/t n2doc Aug 2016 #10
China Culture means culture of current Chinese government Cicada Aug 2016 #19
NAFTA bad, TPP bad. That is how American attention span works. timlot Aug 2016 #2
Sorry, but I've been doing more than reading up on it. I've researched it for years cali Aug 2016 #4
Sure, but Obama likes it. Stubborn Aug 2016 #11
That may well be enough for many people. It is not for me. cali Aug 2016 #13
We have always been at war with Oceania RapSoDee Aug 2016 #3
I've been saying this since, well, forever... TreasonousBastard Aug 2016 #5
I think I have a basic grasp of those intricacies. cali Aug 2016 #8
You will NEVER support the TPP "as written". Such an agreement can never... TreasonousBastard Aug 2016 #9
Melodramatic much? And I've read it and researched it for years cali Aug 2016 #12
Because he wants independent unions and a higher minimum wage in Asia Recursion Aug 2016 #6
I think it's largely geopolitical and the FACTS I posted in the op, support that. cali Aug 2016 #7
Well, yeah, unionized Asian countries would be geopolitical... joshcryer Aug 2016 #17
I trust President Obama. Period. philosslayer Aug 2016 #14
Because he is ideologically a global corporatist. TheKentuckian Aug 2016 #15
Because he believes in it? joshcryer Aug 2016 #16
I think it's largely about China. cali Aug 2016 #18
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