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In reply to the discussion: Ellen DeGeneres defends her Usain Bolt tweet some claimed was racist [View all]
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)353. So it would be OK if it was tRump smiling on the back of a black man? tia
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Ellen DeGeneres defends her Usain Bolt tweet some claimed was racist [View all]
ericson00
Aug 2016
OP
Freepers trolling twitter They are very big on trolling twitter now and they hate Ellen bigly
Monk06
Aug 2016
#360
Black people are strong. And we are human beings with real feelings. When people offend women or
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#147
I married a black man and he carried me, a white woman, across the threshold.
Boudica the Lyoness
Aug 2016
#357
And this racist bullshit needs to end, whether you think it is or not!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#207
Kinda like those who dismiss the fact that there's a recent history of seeing blacks as animals for
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#97
Recent? I guess it depends on your use of the word. I don't imagine however that one would
jonno99
Aug 2016
#136
celebrating the good ole days translates into celebrating this man's success?
loyalsister
Aug 2016
#133
O.K., sure. But the point is to change people's internalized racism and get them to see us as human.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#153
There's no VISUAL picture. It's a mental image that conjures up very painful issues for black people
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#151
Everyone internalizes bigotry, even those who are affected by it. I'm a woman, too. I'm sure that I
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#149
Instead of the very smart-ass comments in this thread, please learn about history and understand
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#148
Since this came from someone who is opposed to racism it lacks credibility?
loyalsister
Aug 2016
#134
It's obvious that you're using other people's pain for your own argumentative gain.
BobbyDrake
Aug 2016
#251
No, its worse... a RECENT history of whites seeing blacks as animals for work no? tia
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#95
To be clear, you are going on record as saying that DU is full of racists.
PoutrageFatigue
Aug 2016
#182
Nobody said anything about animals except you and celebrating accomplishments is just that --
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#126
Which part do you disagree with? The part where you're the only one using the word "animal" or
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#130
I think most white people need to read and understand the history of how black Americans
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#145
Is there anything white people can say that isn't, at the very least, unintentionally racist?
The2ndWheel
Aug 2016
#154
I discussed the impact of unconcious/internalized racism throughout this thread.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#160
I don't deny racists have compared blacks to animals. What I do reject is anything close to that
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#157
Again, unconcious or psychological racism is exhibited WITHOUT the person knowing it...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#161
When we make sexist comments about women and those comments are unintentonal and not meant
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#177
"The goal here is to learn WHY these things exist and still do impact us in adverse ways."
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#210
Just because Ellen's intentions weren't racist doesn't mean it wasn't offensive
UMTerp01
Aug 2016
#8
Psychological racism is STILL racism! Even without intent, when you treat someone differently
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#155
All passengers on a boat from Ireland were eliminated after their work...
Buckeye_Democrat
Aug 2016
#42
Humor is not allowed. We must not offend anybody, no matter how over-sensitive.
Oneironaut
Aug 2016
#13
Or even confront white priviege that doesn't have to acknowledge that there are STILL enough people
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#100
On a conscious level, this was a joke that was not intended to be racist at all. I don't think Ellen
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#169
No...not at all ..we know Ellen. She good people...and even good people can be insensitive ...
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#205
Or to some people who refuse to even acknowledge why it could be seen as racist? tia
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#76
Bolt is an African American?! no... he's not, he's from another country with another history in...
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#103
The British colonized Jamaica and enslaved them for a time. I'm sure they experience it all the same
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#163
Nope. What I'm saying is that just because HE is not offended doesn't mean that every black person
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#195
Nom.. paternalistic is saying get over it... Look, she good people...we know that..just a lil
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#201
Wait.... so she threw a hissy fit about the flag of England because Crusaders flew it
Nye Bevan
Aug 2016
#48
the tyranny of being famous...anything you say or do is put under a microscope
dembotoz
Aug 2016
#46
It would have been interesting to see reactions if she had been on the back of Michael Phelps
spooky3
Aug 2016
#54
Is there a RECENT history of seeing white men as a whole as animals to be used for work? tia
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#94
Exactly! The fact that we now can't do anything funny involving black people is racist in itself.
Respectful Debate
Aug 2016
#366
Bolt is an African American?! no... he's not, he's from another country with another history in...
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#93
Would the joke have worked just as well and the same if he was a white runner?
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2016
#69
Is there a history of seeing white men as a whole as animals to be used for work? tia
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#79
" that's different because of the history involved.".. so there's NO history of blacks being seen...
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#89
You're changing the character of Ms. DeGeneres' comment. She made absolutely no reference to
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#132
She didn't have to spell it out... come on.... There's a history to the image why
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#208
Whatever... I'm talking about a person who tweeted something that could be offensive to
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#217
And you're pretending the history of keeping the LGBT community down doesn't exist.
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#220
I'm not making up history of the repression endured by the LGBT community. It's history.
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#224
Your answer indicates the apathy in this thread, yes... there's a recent history of black people...
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#98
OK.... your saying there's no recent history... There is ...and Ferguson isn't a lone wolf city
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#209
"Kinda stretch there" yep, and not much more of one than calling Ellen's pic racist
jack_krass
Aug 2016
#284
+1, a lot of responses in this thread intimate there is no RECENT past of seeing blacks as animals.
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#90
So is being overtly dismissive of Americas recent history of seeing blacks as animals no? tia
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#104
Would it be ok if Trump posted a pic like that? tia, I'm here to learn also. Regards
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#324
Blacks all over the world are subjected to mistreatment regardless of their accomplishments or their
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#183
All of these points are valid but do not address my point. In the end, I hope we all try to open
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#229
No. Just because some black folk are not offended doesn't negate others' feelings. Sorry.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#175
I would put the ratio of vocal offended white people to vocal offended black people
Dreamer Tatum
Aug 2016
#180
How do you know? People who aren't black are in no position to tell black people how and when to be
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#185
I'll wager on this very issue there are THOUSANDS of white people telling everyone how to feel.
Dreamer Tatum
Aug 2016
#186
Let me ask you this: Someone posts an implicitly homophobic image. You're upset. Straight people
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#188
According to you of course. And perhaps according to Bolt. According to many others, it IS
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#196
Have the NAACP, Black Lives Matter, and several leading US politicians condemned this tweet yet?
Nye Bevan
Aug 2016
#141
Even if they don't, that doesn't detract from how people viewed it. Those organizations don't speak
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#176
It's white people trying to show other white people how outraged they can be.
Dreamer Tatum
Aug 2016
#181
White people trying to tell black people how to think, how to feel, what to be offended about and
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#206
You know, I think that I've lived long enough as a black person in America...
MrScorpio
Aug 2016
#212
Thanks for clarifying. The ingenious photoshopping had me completely fooled (nt)
Nye Bevan
Aug 2016
#225
No, whether the non African American liked it or not is irrelevant in this case. He doesn't live my
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#296
But not the least bit surprising when you think about all that has occurred in the last few years.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#230
White people have been riding on our backs from the dawn of the Atlantic Slave trade
malaise
Aug 2016
#236
WTF?! You do understand all black people in the North America are NOT African Americans right?! WTF,
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#297
There's no history in the imagery? or are you going be the 12th person who doesnt answer this simple
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#295
"deemed animals or subjugated to roles of servitude by state and federal institutions."
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#318
"..All of which has nothing to do with Ellen DeGeneres.." Would you have the same attitude if Trump
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#319
"... Ellen is not Trump..." True, but isn't that expecting people to give her the benefit of the...
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#326
If you prefer to assume the worst of people then we should probably assume the worst of you.
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#328
Not relative to the context right? I mean, I keep asking people if there's recent history of blacks.
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#331
What are you wanting? All humanity to shed all it's sins before you stop prosecuting the innocent?
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#339
No, not all all ... just the innocent claiming there's no sin at all like many have done in this...
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#351
Do you believe there's any dis-proportionality in the way blacks are jailed? Do you believe there's
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#350
To tell African Americans about his non African American experience and why he would or wouldn't
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#294
Option 1 is viable and progressive, someone's feelings get hurt but their the better for it then ...
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#323
Its false that its far of history, it mostly apathy that whites don't know that because they don't
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#345
Basically, its at least insensitive due to history in the imagery but Ellen isn't a racist
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#293
I see the "blacks shouldn't be offended" brigade is out, People there's history with the imagery...
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#298
So just do and say asshole shit and expect people to give the benefit of the doubt? tia
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#320
No, false equivalnce seeing there's no exclusive connections between dog owners then and
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#329
"there's no exclusive connections between dog owners and slave owners"
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#338
That reminds me of a EO rep in the Army who couldn't stop calling Korean Soldiers
Lee-Lee
Aug 2016
#308
Would it be ok if Trump posted a pic like that? tia, I'm here to learn also
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#321
Saying this pic is a "too soon" relative to the racist environment PoC have to endure isn't nonsense
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#334
Would it be ok if Trump posted a pic like that? tia, I'm here to learn also. Regards
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#322
I probably would be offended if Trump posted it, because it would be Trump posting it.
Captain Stern
Aug 2016
#343
Do you think it places the burden on the seer to infer her intentions if they know nothing about...
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#346
I am guessing Ellen didn't look at him as a black man, but as a talented human
The Straight Story
Aug 2016
#333
So it would be OK if it was tRump smiling on the back of a black man? If not then why? tia
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#349
Many are finding reasons to be upset because they over think everything
The Straight Story
Aug 2016
#364
Do you think its fair to intimate to people who have been oppressed what they should not feel
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#347
Everything in context. Given Ellen's history of niceness to pretty much everyone she's encountered
Ex Lurker
Aug 2016
#356
OK, so if a person doesn't know Ellen... what are they supposed to think if they were black? tia
uponit7771
Aug 2016
#362