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In reply to the discussion: White Male Privilege Is Why We Laugh At Lochte And Vilify Douglas [View all]Saviolo
(3,317 posts)59. The Sporting News, for one:
Excuses his lying based on the fact that it's just what Americans do:
So Ryan Lochte lied. Sort of.
At the very least, he appears to have stretched the truth a bit. He allegedly fabricated a story or half a story to get himself and his U.S. teammates out of a bad situation and cover up a stupid mistake.
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So what?
Most of us are liars, too. Most of us do it every day. We either tell outright lies or exaggerate a situation or stretch the truth. Its become the American way.
Like Lochte, we lie to cover up mistakes or to make up for something we said or did that offended someone or didnt go over so well. We distort the truth by supporting or sharing someone elses lie. And then we lie about the lie.
At the very least, he appears to have stretched the truth a bit. He allegedly fabricated a story or half a story to get himself and his U.S. teammates out of a bad situation and cover up a stupid mistake.
RELATED VIDEO
So what?
Most of us are liars, too. Most of us do it every day. We either tell outright lies or exaggerate a situation or stretch the truth. Its become the American way.
Like Lochte, we lie to cover up mistakes or to make up for something we said or did that offended someone or didnt go over so well. We distort the truth by supporting or sharing someone elses lie. And then we lie about the lie.
He points to the fact that the two major party nominees for president are both huge liars:
Hillary Clinton has a long track record of lying. Shes made a career out of it. She even lies about her lies. Shes a master fabricator who excels at spinning stories to cover up her scandals and questionable judgment. Its how she became one of the nations most powerful politicians. And she might just lie her way all the way to the White House. If she does, she will become the second most celebrated liar in presidential history second only to her husband.
Donald Trump is no better. He also has told lie after lie while running for President, changing his opinion and spinning his hateful rhetoric depending on how the political winds shift. He excels at half-truths, gross exaggeration and media manipulation. Thats been his political strategy say or tweet something outrageous, stupid and offensive, and then when he gets caught, lie about it or accuse his critics of being so dishonest. If hes elected, he will have done it by pulling the wool over the eyes of most of the electorate.
Donald Trump is no better. He also has told lie after lie while running for President, changing his opinion and spinning his hateful rhetoric depending on how the political winds shift. He excels at half-truths, gross exaggeration and media manipulation. Thats been his political strategy say or tweet something outrageous, stupid and offensive, and then when he gets caught, lie about it or accuse his critics of being so dishonest. If hes elected, he will have done it by pulling the wool over the eyes of most of the electorate.
And then with torturous logic:
Look, lying is wrong. Everyone knows that. Most of us were taught that from a young age.
But that doesnt stop us. We lie anyway.
So why are we taking Ryan Lochte to task for spinning the truth?
Hes just one of us. Just another in a long line of American liars. He learned from the best.
Maybe his tall tale created an international incident and tainted the Rio Olympics, but hey, if youre going to lie, why not make it a whopper. Why not create an Olympic-size scandal? Rio was a mess to begin with. Whats one more lie added to the mix?
But that doesnt stop us. We lie anyway.
So why are we taking Ryan Lochte to task for spinning the truth?
Hes just one of us. Just another in a long line of American liars. He learned from the best.
Maybe his tall tale created an international incident and tainted the Rio Olympics, but hey, if youre going to lie, why not make it a whopper. Why not create an Olympic-size scandal? Rio was a mess to begin with. Whats one more lie added to the mix?
Of course, this only focuses on the fact that he lied about the mugging and says nothing about the actual vandalism, etc...
(Article here if you feel like torturing yourself: http://www.sportingnews.com/athletics/news/rio-olympics-2016-ryan-lochte-lie-story-fabrication-robbery-police/1ut5nvvb6ytdx1lc7e8rmbqag4)
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White Male Privilege Is Why We Laugh At Lochte And Vilify Douglas [View all]
mercuryblues
Aug 2016
OP
I'm seeing more people making excuses for Lochte right now than I saw attacking Gabby D.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#65
She's also written at least one book, possibly two - I can't remember. She was on the winning
Squinch
Aug 2016
#123
+1000000. Plus all these excuse for a 30 year old man - what does this say to the world ?
Person 2713
Aug 2016
#6
Probably at least 1/2 of MSM would take that tack if not those words. RW press certainly would.
Ford_Prefect
Aug 2016
#192
Can you show us the media that are referring to this as a "youthful prank"?
Ace Rothstein
Aug 2016
#31
They are only ripping him after they found out he and his companions lied.
BumRushDaShow
Aug 2016
#73
Well, yeah. Nobody is going to rip someone who claimed to have just been robbed.
Ace Rothstein
Aug 2016
#76
Nah, they can keep their medals. What they did had nothing to do with their events.
Ace Rothstein
Aug 2016
#121
Again, 99.9% of the responses regarding Lochte are that he is a lying asshole.
Ace Rothstein
Aug 2016
#155
It could simply be a recognition of a disproportional response rather than hate.
LanternWaste
Aug 2016
#39
The majority think Lochte is a moron for his actions and that the Douglas incident was nothing.
Ace Rothstein
Aug 2016
#69
YES!! White guys behaving badly = "kids"; innocent 12-year old black kid playing with a toy gun...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#17
NO! If you're over 18, you are an adult, not a kid. You know the difference between right and
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#137
Just who is this "we"? I have a TON of issue with Lochte and NONE with Gabby (or the Shot Putters).
jmg257
Aug 2016
#18
There is at least one of every kind of asshole on twitter (yes, that includes me)
jack_krass
Aug 2016
#185
I've been overseas 8 times and nobody has ever treated me like an asshole.
Ace Rothstein
Aug 2016
#32
Rachel Maddow broke into her show to basically say these clowns....
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Aug 2016
#46
There was a huge outpouring of support and love directed at her in response to the Twitter/FB trolls
oberliner
Aug 2016
#71
Yes, I missed it... I don't know why athletes pay attention to such assholes
Fast Walker 52
Aug 2016
#124
You do know, I did not know your race or gender. I just read the article you posted.
Rilgin
Aug 2016
#215
I see no evidence that Lochte is getting treated well by the media or social media.
Vattel
Aug 2016
#53
No "left site" should call discussion of perceptions of racial disparity "identity politics".
BumRushDaShow
Aug 2016
#133
One would think the liberal position would be judging people individually on their own merits
NuclearDem
Aug 2016
#139
Nothing like cherry picking events to portray your own version of reality....
jack_krass
Aug 2016
#97