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AikidoSoul

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24. You hit several nails on the head here davidn3600

Sat Aug 20, 2016, 02:54 PM

Aug 2016

The party I belong to sadly has devolved into an elite club.

babylonsister posted a piece that describes this very well. One paragraph in the post said:

But down the road, someone will have to address the problem of a Democratic Party structure that effectively had no internal advocates for a full 43 percent of its voters. As we've seen with the Trump episode on the other side, people don't much like having to fight against the party claiming to represent them.

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It's a big club, and you ain't in it [View all] AikidoSoul Aug 2016 OP

And as long as money is equated with speech, guillaumeb Aug 2016 #1

Read this and pep way up. You're very wrong, you know. Hortensis Aug 2016 #84

George Carlin MinM Aug 2016 #2

You have my rec. Thanks for posting this. cali Aug 2016 #3

Thank you Cali AikidoSoul Aug 2016 #12

All I have to say is......public option. Who kicked it to the curb? MaeScott Aug 2016 #123

Why bring this phony false equivalency bullshit to DU? MohRokTah Aug 2016 #4

I don't know, G_j Aug 2016 #80

The only fake liberals who post here, post at Jackass Laughables, too. eom MohRokTah Aug 2016 #81

As if you could decide such a thing, G_j Aug 2016 #119

um, cuz there's more than a grain of truth in it. the true believers need to get their heads TheFrenchRazor Aug 2016 #117

There is not a single shred of truth to it. eom MohRokTah Aug 2016 #124

I am surprised that it is within the rules hfojvt Aug 2016 #131

Democrats and Republicans are not the same. DawgHouse Aug 2016 #5

No, they're not, but we have an oligarchy problem in this country- as former President Carter cali Aug 2016 #6

There is no such thing as an "Oligarchy" in this country. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #9

lol. what bullpucky. Gee, why would I respect President Carter on this more than you? cali Aug 2016 #13

The only bullshit is throwing around the word "Oligarchy" MohRokTah Aug 2016 #16

It's so well known that we live in an Oligarchy. Where have you been? AikidoSoul Aug 2016 #19

More bullshit. We do NOT live in an Oligarchy. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #21

In a real oligarchy treestar Aug 2016 #45

We are an oligarchy that pretends not to be jack_krass Aug 2016 #128

Moh is correct. We are not an oligarchy, as witness Hortensis Aug 2016 #22

The rich have gained wealth under Obama....their concerns were overblown davidn3600 Aug 2016 #25

Well, if you have money almost all you need to make more Hortensis Aug 2016 #31

sorry, but that's not the only criteria- presidential elections cali Aug 2016 #50

What's your reason for pushing dishonest grievance politics, Hortensis Aug 2016 #52

I don't recognize this place anymore. SMH Arazi Aug 2016 #77

I know precisely what it means. And that that's the best you can is just so sad. cali Aug 2016 #26

You obviousy do not know what the word means because you have called our nation it. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #27

We are certainly very close to it if not irredeemably there. cali Aug 2016 #29

The argument is simple. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #30

Ah, you really don't understand the term. cali Aug 2016 #36

No, you have absolutely NO understanding of the term. Let me help you MohRokTah Aug 2016 #39

Educate yourself davekriss Aug 2016 #54

Educate YOURSELF! MohRokTah Aug 2016 #57

There are 2 "elections" in the United States davekriss Aug 2016 #74

There are hundreds of elections in the United States MohRokTah Aug 2016 #75

There are hundreds of elections in Russia davekriss Aug 2016 #83

An Oligarchy requires a small group to be in control. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #85

You did read the Princeton essay by now davekriss Aug 2016 #92

The Princeton "study" is a pile of horseshit. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #93

And your Doctorate is from where? davekriss Aug 2016 #96

Flag on the play... MohRokTah Aug 2016 #97

Actually I implied ... davekriss Aug 2016 #110

Thanks for one of the latest studies. It makes this point in the introduction: AikidoSoul Aug 2016 #59

I did and a little backing off your untrue allegation is like Hortensis Aug 2016 #55

oh what codwallop. I'm doing nothing of the sort. cali Aug 2016 #60

Ignore is fine. But I compared your backtracking without Hortensis Aug 2016 #61

Horensis...I suggest you re-read Cali's post AikidoSoul Aug 2016 #63

No, my posts are NOT about needing to change oligarchy. Hortensis Aug 2016 #67

From the perspective of modern mainstream neoclassical synthesis, salt water Cary Aug 2016 #49

Both parties elect their candidates based on a system of elitism davidn3600 Aug 2016 #18

Bullshit! eom MohRokTah Aug 2016 #20

You hit several nails on the head here davidn3600 AikidoSoul Aug 2016 #24

Nonsense- almost 2/3 of Dems went for Hillary. The 43 adds in bettyellen Aug 2016 #125

Look back over the past 50 years and pick out the Hortensis Aug 2016 #70

Damn straight! jack_krass Aug 2016 #129

is the Presidency the only office that matters? hfojvt Aug 2016 #133

I only wish that were true. paleotn Aug 2016 #44

more than 100 million voters determined our government MohRokTah Aug 2016 #58

It is often said here that DUer too often display AikidoSoul Aug 2016 #43

Exactly. n/t paleotn Aug 2016 #46

but but what do the stupid scientists know? stupidicus Aug 2016 #90

+1 jack_krass Aug 2016 #130

If it doesn't fit their beliefs, they ignore it. alarimer Aug 2016 #134

The article documents its points very well AikidoSoul Aug 2016 #11

The article spews consoiracy theory woo. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #23

As ususal you simply spit our pejoritives. No facts. No argument. Nothing. cali Aug 2016 #28

And this thread is pushing Illuminati/Bildeberger BULLSHIT! MohRokTah Aug 2016 #32

that's simply absurd. This thread is discussing the inordinate power that the wealthy cali Aug 2016 #34

Your "corporate entities" are the same woo with a different name inserted MohRokTah Aug 2016 #40

Sorry, bud. I've seen it in action. cali Aug 2016 #41

And that's the same claim made by any conspiracy theorist MohRokTah Aug 2016 #42

It is not a "conspiracy theory" LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #64

And again, you are saying the same thing EVERY conspiracy theorist says MohRokTah Aug 2016 #65

I've already stated it's not a C T LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #71

And that is what EVERY conspiracy theorist says! MohRokTah Aug 2016 #72

Will only get you laughed at LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #118

So true. There must be thousands of elected officials treestar Aug 2016 #47

Careful, you are walking a thin line in here LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #7

People see what they wish to see. cali Aug 2016 #8

So true cali LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #17

Team blue? sheshe2 Aug 2016 #68

I notice it does not contain a picture of Trump, who is the only would-be oligarch running. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #98

Thanks for the insightful comment AikidoSoul Aug 2016 #14

We used to make fun of Republicans for that attitude. alarimer Aug 2016 #135

It was alerted on. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #35

Figures LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #62

Most of tjose people in the picture aint in it, either, they're just the hired help Warpy Aug 2016 #10

You make a very good point AikidoSoul Aug 2016 #15

Quite true. Xyzse Aug 2016 #95

Nice source. sagat Aug 2016 #103

... Jamaal510 Aug 2016 #33

I almost loose my s!&$/$t when this is brought up during this time. All I have to say is: Upthevibe Aug 2016 #51

What were they thinking?!! Maybe it was just a very AikidoSoul Aug 2016 #56

So many career contrarians on this site. . . daligirrl Aug 2016 #37

THe Republicans have legalized big money bribery in the US ErikJ Aug 2016 #38

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #48

Thinly veiled though it is, murielm99 Aug 2016 #53

Oh boy! leftofcool Aug 2016 #66

An article by Paul Krugman Challenging the Oligarchy CentralMass Aug 2016 #69

Bullshit. Loki Aug 2016 #73

Like George Carlin sez: marble falls Aug 2016 #76

Yep. LWolf Aug 2016 #86

Jimmy Carter called it years ago. He's had a front row seat so he knows. Arazi Aug 2016 #78

No, Jimmy Carter has never been against the Democratic party muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #79

Submitted without comment: truebluegreen Aug 2016 #88

too funny stupidicus Aug 2016 #89

Is that the same Jimmy Carter who deregulated the airline industry, and pushed still_one Aug 2016 #100

The very one. nt truebluegreen Aug 2016 #113

Since you can't think of any comment, here's mine: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #120

Submitted without comment is not equivalent to truebluegreen Aug 2016 #121

Starting this shit-storm does no Democrat of any kind any good at this time. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #82

that's been obvious for a long time, and only idiots and cons stupidicus Aug 2016 #87

and just who are these so-called idiots and cons? still_one Aug 2016 #99

Democrats are not oligarchs. This OP is false equivalence garbage. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #91

No Democrats are NOT oligarchs. You mean the Jill Stein who refuses to still_one Aug 2016 #102

LOL Yeah, that Jill Stein. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #104

She only released only the front page of the 1040. No Schedules, and still_one Aug 2016 #105

Stein is an asshole. nt SunSeeker Aug 2016 #106

Yes she is still_one Aug 2016 #108

If we lived in an Oligarchy, there would be no choices in the market. Rex Aug 2016 #94

Spot on. egduj Aug 2016 #101

The OP, is bashing Democrats by FALSELY accussing President Obama, Hillary Clinton, still_one Aug 2016 #107

Notice Trump, of all people, is NOT in the OP picture? SunSeeker Aug 2016 #109

Exactly still_one Aug 2016 #111

If all Americans voted in every election... liberalmuse Aug 2016 #112

The fuck? Bush, Obama and Clinton are the same? shenmue Aug 2016 #114

Yeah I noticed that ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #122

+100000 betsuni Aug 2016 #132

And THat's why we should Support Donald Trump ? i mean he isn't in this picture JI7 Aug 2016 #115

K&R. Damn shame about the pushback. :( Arazi Aug 2016 #116

John Kenneth Toole would smile Uponthegears Aug 2016 #126

The phrase you're looking for is "representative democracy". Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2016 #127

So A Man Denigrated For Being a "Community Organizer". . . ProfessorGAC Aug 2016 #136