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KMOD

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139. Why do you assume she was addressing you, and you alone?

Sat Aug 20, 2016, 11:26 PM

Aug 2016

If you aren't doing the things she was discussing, there is no reason for you to be insulted.

I find that in racial discussions, as a white person, if you don't find yourself feeling uncomfortable at some point, you probably aren't truly getting it. Most likely your are dismissing it.

The right thing to do is almost always that hardest thing to do.

If everything were so simple, we would have been past this by now.

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The Culture Of The Smug White Liberal [View all] KamaAina Aug 2016 OP

I see no lies in this article UMTerp01 Aug 2016 #1

This is a great article Gman Aug 2016 #2

This was alerted on Quayblue Aug 2016 #3

Of course it was alerted on UMTerp01 Aug 2016 #14

Spell it out -- who runs this place? SMC22307 Aug 2016 #102

"As long as they play by the many, many rules" UMTerp01 Aug 2016 #106

Ain't that the truth. KMOD Aug 2016 #116

Civility is stressed at DU... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #119

Where's the insult? UMTerp01 Aug 2016 #127

I know some DUers reject the dictionary because... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #133

DU doesn't need any more of the identity politics. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #128

Only if you choose to see it that way. KMOD Aug 2016 #138

Exactly!!!!!! nt UMTerp01 Aug 2016 #156

Exactly. n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2016 #192

You gotta be shittin me. Who, HERE, would alert this OP? 7962 Aug 2016 #49

Most Definitely... LovingA2andMI Aug 2016 #52

Cue the "easily triggered" jokes. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #76

See the latest whine thread about how laughing at the naked Trump statue triggers all obese people. backscatter712 Aug 2016 #158

I'd love to post the video of Phil Ochs Warpy Aug 2016 #123

"This was alerted on" major debacle Aug 2016 #135

A couple of ways, perhaps. Beartracks Aug 2016 #151

such a great article. nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #4

Interesting article. kiva Aug 2016 #5

the media might be filled with white liberal "voices", but they're reading from a right-wing script. unblock Aug 2016 #6

I think it's more nuanced than that. loyalsister Aug 2016 #15

Very thought provoking post. KMOD Aug 2016 #143

Thanks. Living in Columbia, MO has been a great educational opportunity with last fall's events loyalsister Aug 2016 #148

Damn Skippy! nt MrScorpio Aug 2016 #7

When I was a youth, I stumbled across a book I have never forgotten. yallerdawg Aug 2016 #8

Interesting historical audio clip of him BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #18

Nice clip - very interesting story premise. yallerdawg Aug 2016 #46

There was actually a modern production of it created. BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #67

Interesting paragraph... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #65

Oh boy this is really going to be good. MicaelS Aug 2016 #9

Actually, a haole (white) man posted it. A black woman wrote it. KamaAina Aug 2016 #20

Got it. I Corrected my OP. Thanks. n/t MicaelS Aug 2016 #31

Strangely enough, that sentence is very similar to what I've read elsewhere, 7962 Aug 2016 #54

Do you really think that is what liberalism is about? If so, will you not be voting for Squinch Aug 2016 #85

I will vote straight Democratic, period. MicaelS Aug 2016 #90

So they are too concerned with social justice at the expense of economic justice? Squinch Aug 2016 #92

I didn't get that at all from her article. KMOD Aug 2016 #98

Everyone's perspective is molded by different experiences mdbl Aug 2016 #160

Excellent read malaise Aug 2016 #10

I do not agree with most of that viewpoint. Doodley Aug 2016 #11

i don't see how a trip to africa is giving something up JI7 Aug 2016 #13

What should white liberals give up that black liberals in same financial position are giving up? Doodley Aug 2016 #25

they don't have to give up anything. my point is that a trip to africa isn't giving something up JI7 Aug 2016 #34

Sure it is. It's giving time. TCJ70 Aug 2016 #132

that's not "giving up" as in sacrafice such as those who go to wars, sorry but if that's how they JI7 Aug 2016 #150

"Not good enough, young people!" TCJ70 Aug 2016 #165

if they see themselves as some martyr type yeah they aren't very helpful JI7 Aug 2016 #176

Barbie Savior hunter Aug 2016 #99

pretty much JI7 Aug 2016 #152

The author wrote that article with you in mind. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2016 #40

If it generalized about blacks in that way, it would be dismissed as a racist rant. Doodley Aug 2016 #63

+10 Vattel Aug 2016 #113

"it�s unfair to judge an entire by the actions of a small minority" Igel Aug 2016 #12

I don't expect white liberals to "give up anything" - I don't even know what that means. romanic Aug 2016 #16

What about white privilege and microaggressions. Do you believe they exist? I do. Squinch Aug 2016 #86

I believe white Americans have it easier romanic Aug 2016 #110

We'll have to disagree about microaggressions. In fact, I find it interesting that, Squinch Aug 2016 #114

If somone used the n or c words then they would be banned romanic Aug 2016 #164

The question is, are you OK with that? If that were not the case and those people were not Squinch Aug 2016 #168

Of course not. romanic Aug 2016 #179

And my point is that this is word policing, which you say you object to. Squinch Aug 2016 #184

it is only a microaggression if it triggers you into a safe space snooper2 Aug 2016 #185

Can I touch your hair? So, what are you anyhow? You all live in poverty so you have nothing to lose. Squinch Aug 2016 #187

Some excellent points 40RatRod Aug 2016 #17

Great read! Mirror in front of this white face. Missn-Hitch Aug 2016 #19

So... MynameisBlarney Aug 2016 #21

It's not a minority of people in said group, KMOD Aug 2016 #24

You are right and that is very racist whoever may be saying it about whichever group. Doodley Aug 2016 #35

No shit? So because I call someone a murderer, I'm a murderer too? Lol. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2016 #39

No of course not. You wouldn't be making a blanket statement about a whole group of people. Doodley Aug 2016 #42

Committing a murder is a deliberate choice made by an individual. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #75

Yes. They are judging a racist, too comfortable, and privileged white majority. Because said jtuck004 Aug 2016 #38

I'm a white liberal. What exactly do you want me to do, or don't I have the morals to change? Doodley Aug 2016 #44

This is what us white liberals should do. KMOD Aug 2016 #53

I will be defensive if a broad brush is used against any group of people. Doodley Aug 2016 #61

and yet, here you are KMOD Aug 2016 #64

Ding ding ding. Well put. Missn-Hitch Aug 2016 #170

Derisive name-calling is what immediately shuts down the conversation. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #174

You have got to be kidding me. KMOD Aug 2016 #177

oh don't you know? Skittles Aug 2016 #120

She never stereotyped all white liberals, KMOD Aug 2016 #144

The first time I heard the term "safe space" was from a group of college-aged black women.... Moonwalk Aug 2016 #22

Best post of the day. You said it better than I ever could. Doodley Aug 2016 #41

I have personally known many people who fit this description. Throd Aug 2016 #23

What should they do that you are doing? Doodley Aug 2016 #27

Maybe start by not be so self-satisfied with their hyperenlightened moral superiority. Throd Aug 2016 #32

I apologize for being white and being so satisfied with my own hyperenlightened moral superiority. Doodley Aug 2016 #36

That's a start, but what are you going to do about it? (ntxt) scscholar Aug 2016 #68

Yes, the smugness is the sin Warpy Aug 2016 #124

You can run across that anywhere on the political spectrum treestar Aug 2016 #26

Very well said. Doodley Aug 2016 #29

they do the same thing with sexism, they feel its ok to rip into any women they disagree with with Grey Lemercier Aug 2016 #28

Great... Ishoutandscream2 Aug 2016 #30

Good, thought-provoking article. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2016 #33

K&R GREAT Article. eom MohRokTah Aug 2016 #37

There are some truths being mixed in with broad generalizations IronLionZion Aug 2016 #43

I am sorry you have had to face ridiculous questions about where you choose to live. Doodley Aug 2016 #48

We have our own Fascists in our party. Oneironaut Aug 2016 #45

Most people are ok with fascism as long as it goes along with there believes. UnFettered Aug 2016 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #47

I dont think u can stuff Cryptoad Aug 2016 #50

Exactly. I would think it is insulting to most of the white DU members who read this thread. Doodley Aug 2016 #55

Most DU members "get it' and are not offended .... etherealtruth Aug 2016 #104

+1 KMOD Aug 2016 #146

She is a Democrat. KMOD Aug 2016 #58

With n that context,,, Cryptoad Aug 2016 #62

Black woman. . . daligirrl Aug 2016 #66

This Right Here.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2016 #51

Good article. annabanana Aug 2016 #56

Chris hedges said something once about liberals love The Poor.. Volaris Aug 2016 #57

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #59

This is some utter BS. Point your finger at the media not at me. I'm a PROGRESSIVE .. A LEFTIST YOHABLO Aug 2016 #60

K&R awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #69

K&R Sissyk Aug 2016 #70

"Love Me I'm a Liberal" The River Aug 2016 #71

Thanks for posting! TeacherB87 Aug 2016 #72

K&R ileus Aug 2016 #73

I'm not liking this article. I don't at all deny the fact of smugness among white liberals. My Squinch Aug 2016 #74

I agree. SecularMotion Aug 2016 #83

Glad I'm not the only one who saw it. The response to the article is so overwhelmingly Squinch Aug 2016 #84

I read it more as frustration, KMOD Aug 2016 #91

I get the intent, I just think it's suspect that the author chose a whole lot of complaints Squinch Aug 2016 #94

I think the Eric Garner death reference, KMOD Aug 2016 #97

She didn't offer any suggestions about what to "start doing" she just attacked Liberals stevenleser Aug 2016 #100

Her suggestion, at least in my interpretation, KMOD Aug 2016 #107

Does she honestly think Liberals aren't doing that? How would she know? stevenleser Aug 2016 #109

I'll once again refer to this excerpt KMOD Aug 2016 #111

Yes, I agree with that. We all should be judged by what we are doing to solve our Squinch Aug 2016 #112

I said a bit more in post #107 KMOD Aug 2016 #115

I agree that the discussion is always a valuable one. Squinch Aug 2016 #117

I just saw a clip on YouTube, "Liberal Policies to Blame for Inner City Chaos" betsuni Aug 2016 #157

I agree, I don't trust it. betsuni Aug 2016 #142

Good read UnFettered Aug 2016 #77

Too many middle class white people are more concerned with dealing with feelings of guilt... Odin2005 Aug 2016 #78

I've said for a while that the fantasy of white liberalism is that if everyone thinks long and hard XemaSab Aug 2016 #80

At least ten truths in the article Person 2713 Aug 2016 #81

Which ten truths? Doodley Aug 2016 #93

This is the most racist thread I have ever seen on DU. Doodley Aug 2016 #82

Well, you're a n00b. Stick around a while. You'll see plenty more. KamaAina Aug 2016 #105

No doubt, you'll support your allegation yes? LanternWaste Aug 2016 #186

An interesting article that I think is too generalized and superficial not to mention conservative stevenleser Aug 2016 #87

I totally agree. And I agree with your conclusion: Squinch Aug 2016 #88

Poor thing. ronnie624 Aug 2016 #89

Absolute BS article (designed to generate HuffPost clicks) oberliner Aug 2016 #95

I agree its bullshit jcgoldie Aug 2016 #140

True romanic Aug 2016 #180

I've seen it. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #96

This Thread Was Worth the Read lib87 Aug 2016 #101

No liberal has ever stated that the black community should not be held responsible bluedye33139 Aug 2016 #103

It's an exercise in broad-brushing and taking personal issues... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #108

Actually, I believe she was trying to reach you. KMOD Aug 2016 #118

The black community should not be held responsible for the actions of a few bluedye33139 Aug 2016 #121

LOL... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #126

So much of what the article said was accurate and wonderful bluedye33139 Aug 2016 #129

Then she can try forming an argument based on reality NuclearDem Aug 2016 #122

Nobody was called a racist. KMOD Aug 2016 #130

She failed. Perhaps she should work... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #125

Or perhaps you should work on your KMOD Aug 2016 #131

When someone starts by calling me "smug," SMC22307 Aug 2016 #134

Why do you assume she was addressing you, and you alone? KMOD Aug 2016 #139

Should Muslims, Mexicans, and immigrants feel the same way about Trump's comments? Doodley Aug 2016 #153

The OP was not racist KMOD Aug 2016 #154

please SheriffBob Aug 2016 #163

Thank you. I appreciate that you have stood up to a bully. Doodley Aug 2016 #182

Yes, I do have a big problem with race. I am intolerant of any racism and always have been. Doodley Aug 2016 #181

i agree SheriffBob Aug 2016 #178

i am sure that sean hannity would approve of this article SheriffBob Aug 2016 #136

The race baiting meme needs to stop. KMOD Aug 2016 #155

You get it and anybody who disagrees with you doesn't get it. SheriffBob Aug 2016 #161

That's fair comment. Of all the groups that one might rail against, hitting those who at the very OnDoutside Aug 2016 #166

I think people are on a gradiant where racism is concerned. That is not new. I heard a poem applegrove Aug 2016 #137

I took an online test for skin tone bias through Harvard. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #141

I did the first test too and came in at slightly biased. Nicholas Kristof did a like test applegrove Aug 2016 #145

The most shocking thing for me recently was seeing... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #149

Good Points! burrowowl Aug 2016 #147

Language doesn't matter. raven mad Aug 2016 #159

K&R! Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2016 #162

This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Aug 2016 #190

The author is the "White Liberal" Whisperer! MellowDem Aug 2016 #167

Some of us got involved in NC's anti-fracking movement... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #175

Lol. A heap of conservative talking points, swallowed whole because wrapped in identity politics. redgreenandblue Aug 2016 #169

Of course the unstated corollary to this argument . . FairWinds Aug 2016 #171

MLK wrote once ... mntleo2 Aug 2016 #172

This is why I'm a classic pre-Reagan Blue Collar Democrat.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #173

Damn "Liberal White Supremacists" aikoaiko Aug 2016 #183

So, racist black person hates white people. Got it. closeupready Aug 2016 #188

This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Aug 2016 #189

Yes, because this black liberal isn't at all smug: closeupready Aug 2016 #191