Nobodyspecial: Don't Vote Obama -- If you want some crazy-ass far-right extremist running the U.S.

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39. Ok let me see if I can sum up millions of words of others in a short post here

.... seeing as how this topic has been argued pretty extensively by people much smarter then me.


But how about:

First acknowledge this isn't "reality", it's a set of artificial parameters we set for ourselves in this game we call politics. There is nothing in physics that says we can't move the country to the left (especially when we have before many times just as conservatives have moved the country tot he right).

Yes we have to accept the way the system is now. But that doesn't mean we accept that that's how it always must be.

Second, stop acting like it's all about one guy and that if "our guy" wins that means we win. Many long term conservative victories were not done under Republican presidents but Democratic ones. Many progressive policies were not done in by Republicans alone but with the help of Democrats. We cant' fix the problem if we wont' even admit what the problem is.

Third, related to that, the Democratic party leadership doesn't have a lot of incentive to change since they believe (rightly or wrongly) that their base has no choice but to vote for them. And lo and behold here's people like the OP above making just that case. So why should Democrats get better then they will always have boogymen like Bachmann and Gingrich and Perry?

Even Tea baggers are smart enough not to fall for that. SO why do we?

Now you may say "gee that's a rather vague and sparse strategy" and it is since I cant' condense the words of thousands into this one post. And this is long term. There is no quick fix to this.

BUT what we have now is not working. And telling people to ignore that, shut up and vote to keep things not working so we dont' lose any more ground (even when we do keep losing ground) just ins't going to convince anyone.