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melman

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51. Fascinating thread

Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:15 AM

Aug 2016

In it, we learn that when a group of white people are violently attacked and robbed -

- it probably didn't happen

- if it did, then the worst thing is the assailants might not be able to vote

- it's all about ant-black conditioning

- what's really important is how it reflects on BLM so let's not even think of calling this a hate crime

- the victims probably just mouthed off and got their asses kicked

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Men Chant 'Black Lives Matter' Before Viciously Attacking White Victims, Police Say [View all] Purveyor Aug 2016 OP

As if this happened scscholar Aug 2016 #1

I believe it. People are morons. Quantess Aug 2016 #2

Do you have anything to support your statement? NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #13

As if what happened? A group of men beat up some folks and took their stuff? Rex Aug 2016 #50

This is wrong so very very wrong. But let's put that aside for a minute underthematrix Aug 2016 #3

also, don't kick people in the head until they're unconscious Enrique Aug 2016 #4

well that's part of the very very wrong underthematrix Aug 2016 #5

You're implying they had a legitimate reason for this attack melman Aug 2016 #6

What? There's was NOTHING in my original statement to indicate that. I wrote it was very very wrong. underthematrix Aug 2016 #7

Your primary concern is lost votes? Marengo Aug 2016 #11

Yes because pretty much everything that happens is and can and often will be underthematrix Aug 2016 #54

And your primary reason to remind folks not to commit felonies is that they will lose voting rights? Marengo Aug 2016 #60

Yep. That's right underthematrix Aug 2016 #65

Haha! I understand you're joking, but you might to add the sarcasm tag for those who may not. Marengo Aug 2016 #73

I think you are making one of the most important points. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #89

If you dont want to be a felon, dont commot a felony Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #56

Apparently, the most important reason for us not to commit felonies is we may lose voting rights. Marengo Aug 2016 #61

If someone commits a felony then they should be charged with a felony. That's underthematrix Aug 2016 #66

Yeah, I would doubt if any are even registered to vote. cwydro Aug 2016 #8

*insert sarcastic look of surprise here* TipTok Aug 2016 #9

Damn. KMOD Aug 2016 #47

Is it really so far outside the bounds of probability... TipTok Aug 2016 #71

Solidarity. romanic Aug 2016 #10

Everyone who was born, raised and educated in this country has been conditioned to be anti-black MrScorpio Aug 2016 #12

One doesn't have to be anti-black to condemn this sort of behavior. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #14

It's got nothing to do with the behavior in itself, of course it should be condemned... MrScorpio Aug 2016 #15

That's my impression as well. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2016 #17

This is true treestar Aug 2016 #19

Of coarse Lurker Deluxe Aug 2016 #24

Please don't fall for that false equivalency ... Whiskeytide Aug 2016 #38

If someone came in blasting in a crowd while chanting "KKK"... TipTok Aug 2016 #72

No, that would be universally recognized as a hate crime. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #75

So you're saying the KKK and BLM are comparable Cal Carpenter Aug 2016 #85

Just pointing out that logical and ethical standards should be maintained across the board... TipTok Aug 2016 #101

I had exactly that conversation recently loyalsister Aug 2016 #20

I can dig it MrScorpio Aug 2016 #43

I graduated high school in 93 and don't remember this shit going on, Everybody was getting along snooper2 Aug 2016 #63

Actually, we're seeing so many bad things happen because we have so much social media today MrScorpio Aug 2016 #64

[citation needed] NuclearDem Aug 2016 #74

I don't have all day to put on a white supremacy workshop MrScorpio Aug 2016 #95

The burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #97

I gave you some references, which would allow you to do the assessment for yourself. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #100

should be prosecuted as hate criminals, if things happened as alleged. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #16

Hate crimes are motivated by personal characteristics of the victims loyalsister Aug 2016 #21

because they aren't BLM activists, just some randos on the street who uttered the geek tragedy Aug 2016 #22

I know they do loyalsister Aug 2016 #29

it indicates that race was a motivation for the attack nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #31

But doesn't demonize every single person who says it? loyalsister Aug 2016 #32

I apologize, but I truly don't understand what you're arguing. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #35

People are already calling BLM a hate group loyalsister Aug 2016 #36

If someone said "Praise Jesus" while setting fire to a mosque, that would be evidence geek tragedy Aug 2016 #37

Christianity was not established in response to recent filming of violent oppresssion loyalsister Aug 2016 #40

it's not a judgment on BLM, it's just noting that the alleged goons had race on their mind geek tragedy Aug 2016 #41

If those goons saying it are racist, why not everyone who says it? loyalsister Aug 2016 #42

So in the interest of combatting stereotypes, the racial motivation of the attack should be ignored? tritsofme Aug 2016 #69

If you feel certain that they were racially motivated loyalsister Aug 2016 #70

That's nonsense. They allegedly said the phrase as they were carrying out the attack. tritsofme Aug 2016 #77

I just have a clear understanding of the impact of language and it's manipulation loyalsister Aug 2016 #84

Yes, you are right. It's unfortunate these goons did anything to seemingly validate BLM opponents tritsofme Aug 2016 #96

If they were looking to beat up white people just because they were white... NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #79

If they were looking to attack a white person it is a hate crime Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #57

Exactly. It's not that hard to comprehend. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #58

Really? loyalsister Aug 2016 #68

That's not what he said, do you enjoy making things up? Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #78

+1 DashOneBravo Aug 2016 #94

Textbook example of "No true Scotsman..." TipTok Aug 2016 #103

You'd have a point if this were a BLM rally nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #105

Are you suggesting that the only time anyone can be associated with a group... TipTok Aug 2016 #108

no I'm saying that someone should actually be associated with the group before geek tragedy Aug 2016 #111

Who determines 'official' membership in a group like BLM? TipTok Aug 2016 #112

try using some common sense and basic logic. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #113

So... TipTok Aug 2016 #114

so it's your claim that any person who says"Black Lives Matter" thereby automatically geek tragedy Aug 2016 #115

Who is going to argue? TipTok Aug 2016 #116

here's a radical thought: geek tragedy Aug 2016 #117

There are, in all groups and segments, those who are unreasonably quick to aggression discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2016 #18

That's sad. The worst that I've experienced from African American males in my area... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #23

Wow philosslayer Aug 2016 #25

In what way? I know that African Americans have struggles. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #26

I was also hospitalized by white rednecks in my area after I didn't agree... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #27

It is getting markedly worse as per my personal observations. I don't Purveyor Aug 2016 #33

I've seen random white people Bobbie Jo Aug 2016 #28

It's based on what I've observed here. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #30

They really want to claim BLM is about being anti-White..... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #34

Likely happened - the fight, that is. Somebody in the group that got its ass kicked made a reference tonyt53 Aug 2016 #39

That was my first thought Lazy Daisy Aug 2016 #45

Kermit likes to bribe lostnfound Aug 2016 #44

"Never happens anymore"... Did you forget the sarcasm tag? Purveyor Aug 2016 #46

I could kick the shit out of someone tomorrow and shout IVoteDFL Aug 2016 #48

'A group of men' Rex Aug 2016 #49

Fascinating thread melman Aug 2016 #51

Yeah. Marr Aug 2016 #52

Pretty good assessment, indeed. eom Purveyor Aug 2016 #53

That's our white guilt talking... ileus Aug 2016 #55

Yep, that seems to be the gist of it. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #59

Welcome to the world of Social Justice™ NuclearDem Aug 2016 #76

Sums it up perfectly (nt) LongtimeAZDem Aug 2016 #92

I consider it highly likely they were attacked mythology Aug 2016 #99

I'm saddened to see so many making excuses for these criminals. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #62

Agenda. Bobbie Jo Aug 2016 #67

Anti-white racism does exist. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #80

Thanks for clarifying that. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #82

Dictionary definitions apparently only apply when they're convenient. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #83

*but several sociologists say* TipTok Aug 2016 #107

Believe me, I've been informed of that many times. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #109

Respectfully disagree to an extent Bobbie Jo Aug 2016 #91

Racism is racism. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #93

Anyone who doesn't understand that is being intentionally obtuse. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #104

It comes across more as "It's our turn now"... TipTok Aug 2016 #110

This is horrible UMTerp01 Aug 2016 #81

Two of these guys are white vdogg Aug 2016 #86

Wannabe's I suppose... eom Purveyor Aug 2016 #87

What's up with the two white guys>? Calculating Aug 2016 #88

What a bunch of fucked up reporting. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #90

What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Moosepoop Aug 2016 #98

As has been pointed out to me in other situations... NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #106

Of course! You are free to believe any media reports you come across Moosepoop Aug 2016 #120

If the stories of all seven victims match... NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #121

Yes, if. Moosepoop Aug 2016 #122

this had nothing to do with BLM. stonecutter357 Aug 2016 #102

+100 librechik Aug 2016 #118

+1, I dont see that in the story either, if they were calling out they love the Republican party I.. uponit7771 Aug 2016 #119