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NCTraveler

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89. I think you are making one of the most important points.

Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:44 PM

Aug 2016

What you are really addressing is their possible loss of rights. These are a group who have dealt with overwhelming and systemic racism in society. Things like this often occur when people don't have hope. Now they have done this and their hope will diminish even further. It really is sad all the way around.

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Men Chant 'Black Lives Matter' Before Viciously Attacking White Victims, Police Say [View all] Purveyor Aug 2016 OP

As if this happened scscholar Aug 2016 #1

I believe it. People are morons. Quantess Aug 2016 #2

Do you have anything to support your statement? NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #13

As if what happened? A group of men beat up some folks and took their stuff? Rex Aug 2016 #50

This is wrong so very very wrong. But let's put that aside for a minute underthematrix Aug 2016 #3

also, don't kick people in the head until they're unconscious Enrique Aug 2016 #4

well that's part of the very very wrong underthematrix Aug 2016 #5

You're implying they had a legitimate reason for this attack melman Aug 2016 #6

What? There's was NOTHING in my original statement to indicate that. I wrote it was very very wrong. underthematrix Aug 2016 #7

Your primary concern is lost votes? Marengo Aug 2016 #11

Yes because pretty much everything that happens is and can and often will be underthematrix Aug 2016 #54

And your primary reason to remind folks not to commit felonies is that they will lose voting rights? Marengo Aug 2016 #60

Yep. That's right underthematrix Aug 2016 #65

Haha! I understand you're joking, but you might to add the sarcasm tag for those who may not. Marengo Aug 2016 #73

I think you are making one of the most important points. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #89

If you dont want to be a felon, dont commot a felony Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #56

Apparently, the most important reason for us not to commit felonies is we may lose voting rights. Marengo Aug 2016 #61

If someone commits a felony then they should be charged with a felony. That's underthematrix Aug 2016 #66

Yeah, I would doubt if any are even registered to vote. cwydro Aug 2016 #8

*insert sarcastic look of surprise here* TipTok Aug 2016 #9

Damn. KMOD Aug 2016 #47

Is it really so far outside the bounds of probability... TipTok Aug 2016 #71

Solidarity. romanic Aug 2016 #10

Everyone who was born, raised and educated in this country has been conditioned to be anti-black MrScorpio Aug 2016 #12

One doesn't have to be anti-black to condemn this sort of behavior. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #14

It's got nothing to do with the behavior in itself, of course it should be condemned... MrScorpio Aug 2016 #15

That's my impression as well. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2016 #17

This is true treestar Aug 2016 #19

Of coarse Lurker Deluxe Aug 2016 #24

Please don't fall for that false equivalency ... Whiskeytide Aug 2016 #38

If someone came in blasting in a crowd while chanting "KKK"... TipTok Aug 2016 #72

No, that would be universally recognized as a hate crime. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #75

So you're saying the KKK and BLM are comparable Cal Carpenter Aug 2016 #85

Just pointing out that logical and ethical standards should be maintained across the board... TipTok Aug 2016 #101

I had exactly that conversation recently loyalsister Aug 2016 #20

I can dig it MrScorpio Aug 2016 #43

I graduated high school in 93 and don't remember this shit going on, Everybody was getting along snooper2 Aug 2016 #63

Actually, we're seeing so many bad things happen because we have so much social media today MrScorpio Aug 2016 #64

[citation needed] NuclearDem Aug 2016 #74

I don't have all day to put on a white supremacy workshop MrScorpio Aug 2016 #95

The burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #97

I gave you some references, which would allow you to do the assessment for yourself. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #100

should be prosecuted as hate criminals, if things happened as alleged. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #16

Hate crimes are motivated by personal characteristics of the victims loyalsister Aug 2016 #21

because they aren't BLM activists, just some randos on the street who uttered the geek tragedy Aug 2016 #22

I know they do loyalsister Aug 2016 #29

it indicates that race was a motivation for the attack nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #31

But doesn't demonize every single person who says it? loyalsister Aug 2016 #32

I apologize, but I truly don't understand what you're arguing. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #35

People are already calling BLM a hate group loyalsister Aug 2016 #36

If someone said "Praise Jesus" while setting fire to a mosque, that would be evidence geek tragedy Aug 2016 #37

Christianity was not established in response to recent filming of violent oppresssion loyalsister Aug 2016 #40

it's not a judgment on BLM, it's just noting that the alleged goons had race on their mind geek tragedy Aug 2016 #41

If those goons saying it are racist, why not everyone who says it? loyalsister Aug 2016 #42

So in the interest of combatting stereotypes, the racial motivation of the attack should be ignored? tritsofme Aug 2016 #69

If you feel certain that they were racially motivated loyalsister Aug 2016 #70

That's nonsense. They allegedly said the phrase as they were carrying out the attack. tritsofme Aug 2016 #77

I just have a clear understanding of the impact of language and it's manipulation loyalsister Aug 2016 #84

Yes, you are right. It's unfortunate these goons did anything to seemingly validate BLM opponents tritsofme Aug 2016 #96

If they were looking to beat up white people just because they were white... NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #79

If they were looking to attack a white person it is a hate crime Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #57

Exactly. It's not that hard to comprehend. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #58

Really? loyalsister Aug 2016 #68

That's not what he said, do you enjoy making things up? Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #78

+1 DashOneBravo Aug 2016 #94

Textbook example of "No true Scotsman..." TipTok Aug 2016 #103

You'd have a point if this were a BLM rally nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #105

Are you suggesting that the only time anyone can be associated with a group... TipTok Aug 2016 #108

no I'm saying that someone should actually be associated with the group before geek tragedy Aug 2016 #111

Who determines 'official' membership in a group like BLM? TipTok Aug 2016 #112

try using some common sense and basic logic. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #113

So... TipTok Aug 2016 #114

so it's your claim that any person who says"Black Lives Matter" thereby automatically geek tragedy Aug 2016 #115

Who is going to argue? TipTok Aug 2016 #116

here's a radical thought: geek tragedy Aug 2016 #117

There are, in all groups and segments, those who are unreasonably quick to aggression discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2016 #18

That's sad. The worst that I've experienced from African American males in my area... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #23

Wow philosslayer Aug 2016 #25

In what way? I know that African Americans have struggles. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #26

I was also hospitalized by white rednecks in my area after I didn't agree... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #27

It is getting markedly worse as per my personal observations. I don't Purveyor Aug 2016 #33

I've seen random white people Bobbie Jo Aug 2016 #28

It's based on what I've observed here. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #30

They really want to claim BLM is about being anti-White..... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #34

Likely happened - the fight, that is. Somebody in the group that got its ass kicked made a reference tonyt53 Aug 2016 #39

That was my first thought Lazy Daisy Aug 2016 #45

Kermit likes to bribe lostnfound Aug 2016 #44

"Never happens anymore"... Did you forget the sarcasm tag? Purveyor Aug 2016 #46

I could kick the shit out of someone tomorrow and shout IVoteDFL Aug 2016 #48

'A group of men' Rex Aug 2016 #49

Fascinating thread melman Aug 2016 #51

Yeah. Marr Aug 2016 #52

Pretty good assessment, indeed. eom Purveyor Aug 2016 #53

That's our white guilt talking... ileus Aug 2016 #55

Yep, that seems to be the gist of it. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #59

Welcome to the world of Social Justice™ NuclearDem Aug 2016 #76

Sums it up perfectly (nt) LongtimeAZDem Aug 2016 #92

I consider it highly likely they were attacked mythology Aug 2016 #99

I'm saddened to see so many making excuses for these criminals. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #62

Agenda. Bobbie Jo Aug 2016 #67

Anti-white racism does exist. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #80

Thanks for clarifying that. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #82

Dictionary definitions apparently only apply when they're convenient. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #83

*but several sociologists say* TipTok Aug 2016 #107

Believe me, I've been informed of that many times. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #109

Respectfully disagree to an extent Bobbie Jo Aug 2016 #91

Racism is racism. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #93

Anyone who doesn't understand that is being intentionally obtuse. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #104

It comes across more as "It's our turn now"... TipTok Aug 2016 #110

This is horrible UMTerp01 Aug 2016 #81

Two of these guys are white vdogg Aug 2016 #86

Wannabe's I suppose... eom Purveyor Aug 2016 #87

What's up with the two white guys>? Calculating Aug 2016 #88

What a bunch of fucked up reporting. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #90

What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Moosepoop Aug 2016 #98

As has been pointed out to me in other situations... NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #106

Of course! You are free to believe any media reports you come across Moosepoop Aug 2016 #120

If the stories of all seven victims match... NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #121

Yes, if. Moosepoop Aug 2016 #122

this had nothing to do with BLM. stonecutter357 Aug 2016 #102

+100 librechik Aug 2016 #118

+1, I dont see that in the story either, if they were calling out they love the Republican party I.. uponit7771 Aug 2016 #119