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33. Daddy, introducing his daughter to lethal weapons, is to blame as well.

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Wed Aug 24, 2016, 08:34 PM

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Sorry for your loss, but no one else is responsible. [View all] 63splitwindow Aug 2016 OP

Good God. They are blaming the child and her family? Ilsa Aug 2016 #1

I blame the parents as well. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #3

Even if the range didn't have a specific age requirement skepticscott Aug 2016 #14

I can dig that. nt MrScorpio Aug 2016 #15

I think the instructor's family is suing the gun-range's owners LanternWaste Aug 2016 #6

you're right shireen Aug 2016 #24

The children's letter is a very nice sentiment, and were I in the place of the shooter LanternWaste Aug 2016 #66

Why everyone? I grew up hunting and living on a ranch with over 500 head of cattle Drahthaardogs Aug 2016 #67

No they aren't Egnever Aug 2016 #42

If only the idiot instructor had been armed... Orrex Aug 2016 #2

Now THAT was funny! Thank you! Unrepentant Fenian Aug 2016 #4

Once again, the media calls a gun death an "accident" skepticscott Aug 2016 #5

I'd say the 9 year old girl was a victim, too. bluedigger Aug 2016 #11

I agree. The lawsuit will keeps her wounds wide open also. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #12

At least she's alive skepticscott Aug 2016 #16

it is interesting that OHSA is investigating this as an "Industrial Accident". uncle ray Aug 2016 #18

"it only took one guy who had a air nozzle shoved up his rectum for OHSA to regulate air nozzles... 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #20

Yeah, but when some dad in Nebraska eats his adult son's pot brownies and swears at the cat Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #53

I think accident is most accurate. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #65

Sorry, flawed and shitty definition skepticscott Aug 2016 #74

the range owners were undoubtedly negligent... mike_c Aug 2016 #7

Is there actually a "safe" position other than far away if a 9-year-old has an Uzi on automatic? n/t xocet Aug 2016 #22

The instructor's survivors are suing the shooting range and its owners gratuitous Aug 2016 #8

So she had been fantasizing for 9 years about firing an Uzi and not a six shooter, per se? LonePirate Aug 2016 #23

Yay, guns! hunter Aug 2016 #9

gun humpers never take responsibility Skittles Aug 2016 #10

Isn't an Uzi really hard for a grown man to handle? AngryAmish Aug 2016 #13

I have a friend 14yr marine vet with two tours in Iraq who will agree with you. ileus Aug 2016 #19

its size prevents it from having a decent recoil spring to Exilednight Aug 2016 #38

Awful accident but the instructor was at fault. ileus Aug 2016 #17

The instructor was the professional at the shooting range PJMcK Aug 2016 #21

Realistic? Not even a little bit!! Flyboy_451 Aug 2016 #25

Of course, you're correct, Flyboy PJMcK Aug 2016 #30

The first paragraph was in response to Flyboy_451 Aug 2016 #35

That's it right there, it might not be pretty but it is the truth. Rex Aug 2016 #73

There is SO-O-O-O-O-O much of The Stupid in this incident OldRedneck Aug 2016 #26

Made me look Egnever Aug 2016 #43

Killing. It's what guns are designed to do, so why be surprised when they do what they do? n/t Binkie The Clown Aug 2016 #27

For the win HERVEPA Aug 2016 #29

^^^ Yet all the gunners above --after telling us of their vast experience playing with lethal Hoyt Aug 2016 #32

Which gunners would that be, Hoyt? Have the courage of your convictions and point them out. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #46

LOL, like you don't recognize fellow gungeoneers and their usual gun defense posts. Hoyt Aug 2016 #49

Can we say 'prevarication' and 'evidence-free slurs'? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #56

If no one is responsible forgotmylogin Aug 2016 #28

Guns are tools some use to kill people. The thread title, though, says no one ELSE is responsible. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #31

Daddy, introducing his daughter to lethal weapons, is to blame as well. Hoyt Aug 2016 #33

Are you saying the instructor's family SHOULD be entitled to money damages from girl's Dad? 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #34

I don't care about damages, the gun fanciers in this story are to blame. If I were on jury, Hoyt Aug 2016 #36

Awarding it to family of the instructor? Do you not see him PRIMARILY at fault for his death? 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #39

Both at fault, but he's dead. This dad and the next dad need to think about the consequences of Hoyt Aug 2016 #41

Their kids might enjoy it and get good at it? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #45

Good at what, shooting silhouette targets. What does that prepare them for, joining the local Hoyt Aug 2016 #50

Or training for self-defense. Do you prefer inaccuracy while shooting? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #57

Dad and little girl were shooting targets resembling people AT A DISTANCE, not self-defense scenario Hoyt Aug 2016 #60

Spare us your hypocrisy-you've defended shooting teenagers running away in the back... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #61

Ole ARMED Sammy, son of racist Randy Weaver, had just shot at fed Marshal who was killed. Hoyt Aug 2016 #62

How far where they shooting? Figure 9yrs old with an auto ain't gonna be too accurate at distance. n jmg257 Aug 2016 #64

Well, you are supposedly a gun expert, what does this look like to you. Not self-defense scenario. Hoyt Aug 2016 #68

Definitely looks a bit far to expect her to hit anything specific - that seems like 50 yrds or so. jmg257 Aug 2016 #71

Their new minimum age to shoot full auto is 12 years old. What could go wrong? 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #37

The same thing that could wrong when frat kids are allowed Exilednight Aug 2016 #40

"I'm waiting for the first one of those stories." I've been waiting for five years. So far, nada: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #44

No, that doesn't cover it. Exilednight Aug 2016 #51

So ten-plus years of nothing happening isn't enough empirical evidence for you? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #55

it hasn't been ten plus years. you pull up some thread from Exilednight Aug 2016 #58

There's so much wrong there, it begs for a fisking. Here goes: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #59

People have committed suicide on lots of campuses... jmg257 Aug 2016 #63

Guns actually account for the most suicides on campus. Exilednight Aug 2016 #78

Since they are one of the top 2 schools re:suicide rates, its not surprising they did a study. jmg257 Aug 2016 #79

If I was the 9 yr old girl I would blame my parents for bringing me there later in life because wtf Person 2713 Aug 2016 #47

Actually she could. Has a couple of years AFTER attaining adult age (18 most states) to do so. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #48

May as well sue the shooter... Sancho Aug 2016 #52

Exactly. They advertise their guns as killing machines, aphrodisiacs, or whatever. But can't sue em. Hoyt Aug 2016 #69

Gun nut vs. gun nut. Perfect. Vinca Aug 2016 #54

Laughed out loud at title. Sounds like Michael Moore movie, and sad commentary on our society. Hoyt Aug 2016 #70

If only they had gone to a park that day and had a picnic together. Rex Aug 2016 #72

A result of systematic brainwashing of our young kwolf68 Aug 2016 #75

The Charles Vacca Memorial Award for Memorable Firearms Safety Instruction struggle4progress Aug 2016 #76

Children of gun instructor killed by 9-year-old at range launch campaign struggle4progress Aug 2016 #77