I just cannot see forcing a woman to reveal a part of her body she is not comfortable revealing as

[muriel_volestrangler]

127. OK, so your approach to public freedom is to mind-read what happened back at home

and assume that the woman was forced to do something by a man who isn't around, and fine her just on the chance someone told her what to do. Even in your world, you are blaming the victim.

"And it's not about enforcing socio-religious expectations on anyone" ... go on ...

"It's about not permitting the display of repressively oppressive cultural clothing which, by its permission, validates the premise of the regressive and archaic religious rules that are not socially acceptable in this modern world. "

OK, so you are enforcing your socio-religious expectation on the woman, but it's not about that, oh no. You have decided what the symbolism of the headscarf is, and you want to punish the woman for it, who you say has been forced into using it by a man.

"You may not realize that males in the extremist ME cultures control everything females wear, right down to their underwear."

And you may not realise that these beaches are in France, not the Middle East. That a single woman on the beach, or a woman there with her child (the 2 examples we have in The Guardian article in this thread - reply #6) is not an example of "extremist Islamism", even if she's wearing a headscarf. In extremist Islam, a woman wouldn't get to go to the beach on her own.

"What female benefits by males choosing their garments for them"

Indeed. That's the whole point, which you are missing.

Here's an oppressed female, accepting a Nobel Peace prize:



and talking to a man who is "permitting the display of repressively oppressive cultural clothing" - I wonder if you can identify him?



And here she is, being interviewed at an international cricket match in England. You never used to get people wearing headscarves at these matches. Why oh why is the heart of British culture being invaded by extremist Islam like this?