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31. That is an argument for better incarceration

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:38 PM

Aug 2016

It is not an argument for capital punishment.

The fact that a convicted prisoner remains a danger while incarcerated means that stricter incarceration is required. Otherwise you're arguing that we should execute them because it's more convenient for us.

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10 year old drugged, raped, killed [View all] left-of-center2012 Aug 2016 OP

This is why we need the death penalty... TipTok Aug 2016 #1

The death penalty would have prevented this from happening, or happening again? LanternWaste Aug 2016 #6

you repeated yourself in the body of post again, oh, and maybe- maybe not snooper2 Aug 2016 #10

Cause still come before effect... TipTok Aug 2016 #11

What in your mind makes execution an appropriate punishment? Orrex Aug 2016 #30

Same thing that lets me sleep well at night... TipTok Aug 2016 #35

Ah, yes. Killing is ok as long as we come up with a way to rationalize it. Orrex Aug 2016 #46

Progressive does not mean pacifist... TipTok Aug 2016 #71

But Progressive thinking is not consistent with bloodlust Orrex Aug 2016 #79

Do you consider all punishment to be vengeance for the crime committed? TipTok Aug 2016 #81

No, I don't Orrex Aug 2016 #84

If someone robs your house... TipTok Aug 2016 #87

Straight out of Deuteronomy, as I noted. Orrex Aug 2016 #89

Why would I need to convince you? TipTok Aug 2016 #91

I'm asking you to convince me that your reasoning is sound Orrex Aug 2016 #93

The points on both sides have been made... TipTok Aug 2016 #95

"The world is better off" EL34x4 Aug 2016 #60

Well "again", yes quite possibly whatthehey Aug 2016 #14

That is an argument for better incarceration Orrex Aug 2016 #31

There are other ways Major Nikon Aug 2016 #33

To answer both the above - the difference is I deal in reality. whatthehey Aug 2016 #75

Sure, killing people is just so much better Major Nikon Aug 2016 #104

Maybe... if they started carrying out the sentences swiftly & surely, and possibly even Ghost in the Machine Aug 2016 #68

I disagree sarisataka Aug 2016 #9

Oh? And that would have prevented this how? tenderfoot Aug 2016 #22

I'd buy that... TipTok Aug 2016 #34

Nope. It has been shown a zillion times that the death penalty is not a deterrent. (nt) HERVEPA Aug 2016 #26

It's not really about deterence Calculating Aug 2016 #36

Yeh. Kill people who kill people to show killing people is wrong. Makes a lot of sense. HERVEPA Aug 2016 #37

Agree. zz-la Aug 2016 #69

And what happens when the scumbag that was executed dflprincess Aug 2016 #67

Even though the thought of the DP is satisfying in his case, it's not the answer. Laffy Kat Aug 2016 #64

Yes, the important thing is to satisfy Bronze Age bloodlust Orrex Aug 2016 #29

Yup. well said. HERVEPA Aug 2016 #38

Deuteronomy goes way out in the weeds.... TipTok Aug 2016 #72

No, you really aren't ok with that. Orrex Aug 2016 #80

That was unsurprisingly broad... TipTok Aug 2016 #82

And entirely accurate Orrex Aug 2016 #86

That's quite a strategy... TipTok Aug 2016 #92

No, that's not it. Orrex Aug 2016 #94

A long post with more assumptions than content... TipTok Aug 2016 #96

When I post one of those, I'll let you know. Orrex Aug 2016 #100

It's ok... TipTok Aug 2016 #103

Wow--you really do love death. Orrex Aug 2016 #106

That... TipTok Aug 2016 #107

No Orrex Aug 2016 #109

It would appear that our definitions of 'endless' differ significantly... TipTok Aug 2016 #118

Killing someone is just so bad, so we need to kill those who kill! Chemisse Aug 2016 #76

Or, "Innocent life is so very precious; if you willfully take it, your own life is forfeit." jonno99 Aug 2016 #78

If an animal is caged in error, it can be set free Orrex Aug 2016 #110

I'm with you on this one. aikoaiko Aug 2016 #77

i agree. do the same thing to them. trueblue2007 Aug 2016 #105

Nah... TipTok Aug 2016 #108

Evil animals.. HipChick Aug 2016 #2

Animals would never do this to their young. catbyte Aug 2016 #66

Animals kill their offspring all the time. Mosby Aug 2016 #98

OMFG no_hypocrisy Aug 2016 #3

NM is paroling a "mother" who allowed EllieBC Aug 2016 #4

I don't support the death penalty, but some stink knows how to work the system. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #12

Link please. HERVEPA Aug 2016 #27

Here you go. Read the details at your own risk. EllieBC Aug 2016 #42

Thank you. HERVEPA Aug 2016 #43

From other articles it appears at the time EllieBC Aug 2016 #62

The mother is not being paroled womanofthehills Aug 2016 #113

OMG, that poor girl... liberalla Aug 2016 #5

There is no resting. There is not peace or no peace. She's dead. HERVEPA Aug 2016 #39

I've always wondered why people who don't believe in a god try to take that comfort away from others renate Aug 2016 #44

Perhaps they're sad because they don't feel any comfort themselves... Calculating Aug 2016 #49

Put fairy tales out there if you like. I will call them fairy tales. HERVEPA Aug 2016 #70

It should at least be a good story.... TipTok Aug 2016 #73

Too bad you can't respect a difference of belief. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #83

Kind of touchy, aren't we. HERVEPA Aug 2016 #88

Hell yes. Especially when people act like you do towards other people. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #111

All the god stuff is fine I guess, the no god stuff, not so much. HERVEPA Aug 2016 #112

Very gloomy, but accurate. sammythecat Aug 2016 #123

For those 3, I envision those growling, stretching shadows grasping the evil in "Ghosts." Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #7

I can't imagine how people can do such evil things. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #8

Perhaps they hate and fear the innocence and hope in a child's eyes. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #13

Typically, they were horribly abused as children themselves. killbotfactory Aug 2016 #28

shit happens right? Mosby Aug 2016 #15

People get their fix regardless of the laws. More people get killed because of the illegality. HERVEPA Aug 2016 #40

Not with meth Calculating Aug 2016 #47

Drug-induced psychosis is what you are referring to Mosby Aug 2016 #97

You know, drunk people do a lot of violent things Mariana Aug 2016 #119

A few things you left out Calculating Aug 2016 #121

She looks like a meth head JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #16

They injected to child with meth before she was sexually assaulted then stabbed in the stomach and Person 2713 Aug 2016 #25

It gets even sicker if that is possible- mother said she watched for her own" sexual gratification" womanofthehills Aug 2016 #115

I don't even understand that and am glad I don't. If you wondering why the man has a black eye Person 2713 Aug 2016 #116

What kind of evil MFM008 Aug 2016 #17

I'd be fine with exterminating the Ilsa Aug 2016 #18

Yep. Lets make the society even less civilized. HERVEPA Aug 2016 #41

I think it'll be more civilized without these vicious monsters Ilsa Aug 2016 #51

Agreed Calculating Aug 2016 #54

The definition of why we have the death penalty Calculating Aug 2016 #19

Subhuman cretins. lpbk2713 Aug 2016 #20

I can't even begin to understand what would make someone smirkymonkey Aug 2016 #21

some humans do not deserve air. as my epal + i say. zoo food. pansypoo53219 Aug 2016 #23

Local news here with video from NM Person 2713 Aug 2016 #24

From your link: WARNING: Story contains details that may be disturbing to some GreatCaesarsGhost Aug 2016 #58

Sounds like meth played a big part. Quantess Aug 2016 #32

Life imprisonment, no parole and into the general prison population. roamer65 Aug 2016 #45

True to that Ghost of Tom Joad Aug 2016 #90

These monsters deserve life WITH NO CHANCE OF PAROLE. MoonRiver Aug 2016 #48

+1 LWolf Aug 2016 #50

Yes. NM prisons are not nice places Warpy Aug 2016 #53

They won't last long in prison. roamer65 Aug 2016 #55

Law of the jungle MoonRiver Aug 2016 #57

I remember reading a story about an SO in prison. roamer65 Aug 2016 #59

"Their punishment the next day was Krispy Kremes, chocolate milk and magazines" left-of-center2012 Aug 2016 #61

Albuquerque paper said they will not be with general population womanofthehills Aug 2016 #114

I'm usually not this blood thirsty, but yeah...put them under the prison. Rex Aug 2016 #63

I'm on jury duty now Warpy Aug 2016 #52

Just as I am about to vote to abolish the CA death penalty RandySF Aug 2016 #56

What would you do? Marengo Aug 2016 #101

This is so sickening! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #65

Oh My God... Odin2005 Aug 2016 #74

I couldn't read the entire story last night. It made me cry. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #85

The inhumanity of some is sickening beyond arthritisR_US Aug 2016 #99

ABQ is a mess these days... Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #102

Is it from drugs ? One article had police talking about meth problems in the community and Person 2713 Aug 2016 #117

Drugs, gangs and indifferent policing Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #120

Ugh utterly despicable. It's easy to blame the drugs, but IVoteDFL Aug 2016 #122