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In reply to the discussion: 10 year old drugged, raped, killed [View all]whatthehey
(3,660 posts)There are all kinds of wonderful sci-fi kiddy fantasies about how we could absolutely prevent recidivism but until we can freeze people in carbonite or develop stasis fields the problem is they either don't work or are so cruel that they would be laughed out of any judicial review. Lobotomies? Jesus Christ what person who hadn't already had one would choose that over a quick death, even if we had 5 sadists on the Supreme Court who would condone the choice? Might as well say we could amputate all four limbs and let the little Prince Randians live happily ever after. Sure we could build solitary inescapable prisons far below heavily mined concrete bunkers with sustenance dropped through chutes too small to permit hope of escape. Again, which court would allow it? Which convict would choose it?
As far as innocent lives go, that is supreme hypocrisy from DP opponents. Have there been innoent convicts executed? Quite possibly. Probably even. No definitive proof has been presented however. Find me 8 such and then I'll move on to another of the hundreds of convicted killers who have killed again when execution would have prevented those innocent lives been lost - I've already given you McDuff's lowball 7. These victims of repeat convicted killers are almost always more innocent and killed by far more brutal loss of "pounds of flesh" than those executed by the state. I care about real, proven, definitively innocent (it's worth pointing out 2/3 of death row inmates are repeat felons and one in 12 a repeat murderer prior to their final sentence), torturously slaughtered loss of life more than I do the hand-wringing hypotheticals of those who might be potentially killed after due process and under controlled conditions. Why don't you?