Yikes! A liberal Democrat is running for president. Calls for Medicare for all, a new WPA, massive

[karynnj]

41. I'll give you cabinet posts (esp Treasury) and I think there is a lot that can be done within the

administration on transparency - and Obama has not been all that good on that. On civil rights, most things need to go through Congress and Obama has scored some important victories.

I never saw Obama as extremely liberal. In 2004, I thought he was more liberal than Hillary Clinton, but not that far apart. I thought he was closer to Kerry than Clinton on foreign policy, but that was my misconception - maybe because Kerry was his best foreign policy surrogate. In reality, I think the people who said there was little difference were correct.

What that means is that was no liberal choice in 2008 - Edwards was essentially a chameleon, whose Senate vote were similar to Evan Bayh's (to the right of Clinton's), his 2004 campaign well to the right of (Kerry, Dean, and Clark), in 2008, he obviously thought the only opening was on the left as Clinton was right enough to claim the center and the right and she could be thought to get some of the left. His 2008 platform had more in common with the 2004 Kerry platform than his own 2004 platform.