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Warpy

(114,555 posts)
58. True, unless we're women
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 02:51 PM
Aug 2016

Advances in obstetric medicine means that a lot more of us are living through childbirth, something that used to kill many of us off before we got out of our 20s. Going through old graveyards (as well as articles on archaeological digs) can be a sobering experience. The lot of a woman was to be pregnant every year, producing as many children as she could. Even without fatal complications of pregnancy and childbirth, this had a massive negative effect on her health. Add a little periodic malnutrition and waves of various plagues and you wonder how any of our ancestresses survived to 30.

Advanced obstetrics, contraception and abortion are all under attack by the farthest right patriarchal fundies. Both FLDS and Quiverful women routinely go through pregnancy and childbirth without medical care and both are firmly against contraception.

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We are not "living longer" [View all] SHRED Aug 2016 OP
Interesting article nt lillypaddle Aug 2016 #1
Only politicians with their cushy desk jobs are living longer CRF450 Aug 2016 #2
Having power is a Wonderful drug. dubyadiprecession Aug 2016 #18
If we still add in 'infant mortality rates'... yallerdawg Aug 2016 #3
When you say living longer you have to ask compared to what? upaloopa Aug 2016 #6
The point is... SHRED Aug 2016 #8
Somebody is misrepresenting something. yallerdawg Aug 2016 #19
If you are averaging a group awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #57
Excerpt confuses maximum lifespan with expected lifespan.. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #4
I've been working on my family tree and I've discovered this to be true. A Brand New World Aug 2016 #5
Especially for women Freddie Aug 2016 #24
Same here - if you survived childhood, disease, warfare and accidents your lived as long csziggy Aug 2016 #26
I guess modern medicine is a waste of time. pintobean Aug 2016 #7
It has eliminated many childhood diseases SHRED Aug 2016 #9
Exactly. LisaL Aug 2016 #10
I understand that SHRED Aug 2016 #11
I wonder if the life-prolonging effects of modern medicine, Chemisse Aug 2016 #12
Life-prolonging effects of modern medicine resulted in average life span to be much longer than LisaL Aug 2016 #13
^^THIS SHRED Aug 2016 #14
I understand that. Chemisse Aug 2016 #15
"fewer" -- Stannis Baratheon EOM sammythecat Aug 2016 #47
True, unless we're women Warpy Aug 2016 #58
Not just in childhood, but much fewer died in childbirth. Ilsa Aug 2016 #64
The article overstates its point. By far. Igel Aug 2016 #37
More of us now get to live. MyshkinCommaPrince Aug 2016 #16
I never intended my OP to be a knock... SHRED Aug 2016 #17
Yeah, sorry. MyshkinCommaPrince Aug 2016 #28
In general, allergies are more common now. Chemisse Aug 2016 #22
Actually, we are indeed living longer. Here is the change in life expectancy at age 10, Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #20
This is more along the lines of what I suspected True Dough Aug 2016 #35
Extrapolating like that is nonsense! Helen Borg Aug 2016 #43
OK, just look at the lines from 1950 to 2016, and ignore the extrapolation (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #54
Yup. Helen Borg Aug 2016 #55
I've learned that most people just don't understand this. dofus Aug 2016 #21
I've seen that a lot in historical fiction. Chemisse Aug 2016 #23
Working on my family tree, PatSeg Aug 2016 #25
Beyond a certain date Igel Aug 2016 #42
Most of my 19th century ancestors PatSeg Aug 2016 #53
OP Thread title is WRONG. We are living longer, as adults, accounting for infant mortality Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #27
And to continue the inquiry, are we living more intelligently? nolabels Aug 2016 #33
US health care is NOT enlightened. It is bizarre and byzantine. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #45
U.S. Health care just like many other areas in our national society are based on predatory model. nolabels Aug 2016 #52
KNR. n/t DirkGently Aug 2016 #29
A statistic is like a G String... meaculpa2011 Aug 2016 #30
Mmmm.....Good one!!!! LongTomH Aug 2016 #32
Since 1960, male US life expectancy at 65 has gone up from 13 to 18; female from 16 to 20 muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #31
Exactly what the OP ignores and does not understand. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #51
Lots of conversation here SHRED Aug 2016 #34
Having "stirred up the debate", would you consider correcting the OP in light of it? Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2016 #36
Did you read the entire article? SHRED Aug 2016 #41
I understood what you were trying to convey. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #38
Your facts and thesis are wrong plus you have set up a straw man. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #44
Oh yes they are SHRED Aug 2016 #49
Except that the perception may be skewed Igel Aug 2016 #48
Your OP's subject line is false pintobean Aug 2016 #62
What has not been discussed in this thread is the impact of economic inequality on life expectancy LongTomH Aug 2016 #39
Exactly... paleotn Aug 2016 #50
This is really interesting ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #40
Here's some interesting data on the subject.... paleotn Aug 2016 #46
Anyone who has done extensive genealogy...... llmart Aug 2016 #56
Your age and agree with you on that one HockeyMom Aug 2016 #60
I'll be 70 in less than 3 years... llmart Aug 2016 #65
More are seeing the maximum expected lifespan. roamer65 Aug 2016 #59
Deceptive article bhikkhu Aug 2016 #61
They've done a great job marketing the "Americans are living longer" BS yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #63
I posted a piece on this years ago. If one lived past 35 they typically made it quite far. JanMichael Aug 2016 #66
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