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204. Google "one punch kills man" and this is a sample of what you get

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 03:19 PM

Jun 2012

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/07/06/20110706las-vegas-casino-beating-death.html

http://www.citypages.com/2011-07-27/news/one-punch-homicide/

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/justice/1259246/Family-of-man-killed-with-one-punch-furious-as-attacker-caged-for-just-14-months-Ricky-Maynard-Lee-Cook.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-17080541

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2077173/England-football-fan-taunted-Welshman-killing-punch-outside-Wembley-Stadium-jailed.html

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/02/new_trial_granted_for_clevelan.html

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/02/10/man-pleads-guilty-in-fatal-08-fight-outside-giants-game/

http://article.wn.com/view/2009/11/19/Teenager_jailed_for_killing_man_with_one_punch/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2061741/Kyle-Allen-kills-brother-Sam-Kirk-single-punch-drunken-argument-Derby.html

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Man shot in road rage upset that prosecutor won’t file charges [View all] proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 OP

Maybe Randall should have raps Jun 2012 #1

Since you are new; greiner3 Jun 2012 #94

Ummm.. dubient Jun 2012 #97

I think so and I think he hoped like I do that the first commenter Maraya1969 Jun 2012 #139

There's a lot of people out there that need anger managment class. L0oniX Jun 2012 #140

That is a very realistic point of view. FarPoint Jun 2012 #156

Hear hear. All road rage will get you is dead - from a heart attack if not from being shot. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #205

Another reason to reconsider these type gun laws. Hoyt Jun 2012 #2

Lessons learned: stay on your bike and don't assault someone first. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #3

I'm mystified by this notion alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #4

Over 700 people a year are murdered by "hands, fists or feet" hack89 Jun 2012 #13

I get your point alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #31

I am now a 50 year old man with physical disablities hack89 Jun 2012 #35

From what I read in article, guy could have driven off. I think prosecutor nailed it. Hoyt Jun 2012 #38

The guy on the bike made the choice to violently assault someone. hack89 Jun 2012 #43

Still could have driven off. And it doesn't sound like the shooter was "beaten" close to death. Hoyt Jun 2012 #44

And you know for a fact that he could have driven away? Show me. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #46

Read the article, bike was behind him. And driver left the scene of the shooting after he shot him. Hoyt Jun 2012 #49

He left because he didn't know it the guys wife SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #53

I don't care why he left, he did. Should have done it before pulling his gun. And he shouldn't Hoyt Jun 2012 #56

Your were not there Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #59

Neither were you. DA said he thinks it is wrong, but he has no choice under state's gun laws. Hoyt Jun 2012 #63

Did you even read the article? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #70

This is what he said, if you read to the bottom of the article: Hoyt Jun 2012 #72

In this situation SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #78

It's the law in MO. Car is same as house. If someone unlawfully enters, you are allowed Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #143

Yes ...we all should wait until we are seconds away from dying before using a gun. L0oniX Jun 2012 #147

Yeah, I guess alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #45

Not everyone is into macho feats of physical violence like you are. hack89 Jun 2012 #50

I agree SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #55

Possessing and pulling a gun when you can drive away is also a "macho" action. Hoyt Jun 2012 #64

Bullshit SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #71

How come the biker didn't ride off? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #186

Eh, I can see both positions as having an element of macho swagger to them alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #65

I do not share your perverted sense of fairness. hack89 Jun 2012 #68

I don't share the extremely low value you place on human life alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #114

My life is more important then the guy trying to kill me. hack89 Jun 2012 #117

That is an excellent way to describe both positions. jp11 Jun 2012 #84

I'm in the same boat, EXCEPT FrodosPet Jun 2012 #127

I have loved ones that depend on me hack89 Jun 2012 #131

Why should you gamble that your injuries be minor? Maraya1969 Jun 2012 #141

In my concealed carry class SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #146

You could do that with pepper spray. You don't have to kill Maraya1969 Jun 2012 #148

Pepper spray doesn't always work SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #149

Wow I would sit and think about your views on human life if I were you. Maraya1969 Jun 2012 #171

Thats utter bullshit SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #175

So if I understand correctly sarisataka Jun 2012 #177

I would sit and think about what could happen with a visually impaired driver... Clames Jun 2012 #194

Pepper Spray would have worked. But not "macho" enough for gun culture. Hoyt Jun 2012 #150

Why Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #154

+1 sadbear Jun 2012 #158

If he used pepper spray he likely would not have been able to drive off sarisataka Jun 2012 #151

I'd rather my child experience a little pepper spray sadbear Jun 2012 #159

You have apparently sarisataka Jun 2012 #160

I have and wasn't scarred for life sadbear Jun 2012 #161

First time I have heard sarisataka Jun 2012 #163

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #162

It takes a trial to figure those things out sadbear Jun 2012 #164

And you have no idea how our justice system work SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #165

I'm the one who doesn't understand our justice system? sadbear Jun 2012 #168

Are you really that obtuse? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #170

I have nothing against people defending themselves sadbear Jun 2012 #172

Ok your right SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #176

Exactly. Right on target. Hoyt Jun 2012 #166

No - I want them incapable of hurting me hack89 Jun 2012 #178

I'm a small woman Aerows Jun 2012 #21

I'm mystified by the idea that you have some right to beat up a 65 y.o. man in public. Romulox Jun 2012 #29

A blow to the head can kill you SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #36

Don't initiate violence 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #62

Where do you get the idea that it's permissible to go around punching people? JVS Jun 2012 #77

um, somebody just punched a child rapist to death magical thyme Jun 2012 #85

Well said. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #89

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2012 #101

+1000000 L0oniX Jun 2012 #142

It's not like TV! 1 hit can kill ...expecially if it knocks someone over to the ground... L0oniX Jun 2012 #134

Espicially if the person getting punched SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #135

I'm a female Dorian Gray Jun 2012 #199

The motorcyclist deserved to be shot.. Johnyawl Jun 2012 #5

The driver of the car almost ran the motoryclist's wife off the road do to careless driving. Ikonoklast Jun 2012 #6

Not according to the prosecutor. hack89 Jun 2012 #79

I'm surprised more hasn't been said about the motorcyclist's wife KansDem Jun 2012 #112

If you deliberately try to drive my wife, friend or myself off the road with your car, MadHound Jun 2012 #7

sounds like an argument for stand your ground laws. leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #14

Sound more like a case for the prosecutor to do his job, MadHound Jun 2012 #19

Right On bahrbearian Jun 2012 #24

big bad motorcyclist who "had it coming". WOW the prosecutor said that? leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #27

This idiot DID have it coming. He confronted the driver. And got his dumb ass shot.... Logical Jun 2012 #123

I do not see where it is claimed sarisataka Jun 2012 #86

Where in the hell do you see "deliberately" in this story. It was a mistake.... Logical Jun 2012 #121

Ugh. Sick of the gun humping cowards. If you are gonna get violent, use your damn fists, like men. phleshdef Jun 2012 #15

Some of us are no Meiko Jun 2012 #23

Then don't be trying to run people off the road. phleshdef Jun 2012 #26

I remember reading the story SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #42

I always try to be careful Meiko Jun 2012 #52

Yes, living in NYC I rarely drive anymore, but when I lived in Florida this happened a lot stevenleser Jun 2012 #81

Preach that horse shit to a woman Spoonman Jun 2012 #69

+1 L0oniX Jun 2012 #138

Oh right, because attempting rape is the same thing as a road rage induced squabble. phleshdef Jun 2012 #180

YOUR "horse shit" of "false equivalancy" Spoonman Jun 2012 #183

This entire thread is about a road rage incident. phleshdef Jun 2012 #191

Oh ...so using fists is what a real man does huh? L0oniX Jun 2012 #136

I am a scrawny little dude. I'm 5'9 125 lbs. phleshdef Jun 2012 #181

Your choice SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #184

You don't have to give a flying fuck. It doesn't change the fact that its cowardice. phleshdef Jun 2012 #190

If thats what makes you sleep better at night SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #192

I don't believe carrying a concealed weapon makes someone a coward. phleshdef Jun 2012 #201

Nice reframe. L0oniX Jun 2012 #187

Is that the best you got? I guess I better back off before you try to shoot me. phleshdef Jun 2012 #189

I wouldn't have rolled my window down in the first place Major Nikon Jun 2012 #197

Maybe they're both idiots ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #8

Bingo. Bake Jun 2012 #18

+1 proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #39

Absolutely. jp11 Jun 2012 #54

"...the motorcyclist first reached into his car and punched him...." slackmaster Jun 2012 #9

More details, MadHound Jun 2012 #10

deliberately? the driver wasnt very smart in revealing that leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #11

There were witnesses who said it looked like a deliberate action MadHound Jun 2012 #12

so deliberately is just hearsay or opinion leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #16

No, actually there are witnesses, MadHound Jun 2012 #17

no witness could state, as a fact, what the intentions of the driver were. there are alot of people leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #20

As lawyers like to frequently state... MicaelS Jun 2012 #32

Link? proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #40

Where are you getting this? Dr. Strange Jun 2012 #185

The proper response is to call the police, then. You don't get to beat people in revenge. Romulox Jun 2012 #30

Let's assume for the sake of discussion that it was a deliberate attempt to run the woman off slackmaster Jun 2012 #37

The prosecutor appears to disagree with you hack89 Jun 2012 #76

According to some meat head morons he should have been man enough to punch the biker back ....pffft L0oniX Jun 2012 #137

Right and Wrong in road rage in crazy times? ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #22

Sounds like a toss up....all the more reason to be humble ileus Jun 2012 #25

The motorcyclist is angry because he brought fists to a gun fight. nt Javaman Jun 2012 #28

looks like the guy in the car was in the right belcffub Jun 2012 #33

I don't like the idea of not bringing charges at all treestar Jun 2012 #34

Exactly. Hoyt Jun 2012 #41

Bullshit SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #47

I'm leaning in that direction myself proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #57

Whether it is clear or not treestar Jun 2012 #110

Fair question SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #118

It will be interesting if Randall tries to file a civil suit treestar Jun 2012 #179

I don't think he can SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #182

That sounds like the Fla. law treestar Jun 2012 #193

This is MO SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #195

The DA should have let a jury decide. sadbear Jun 2012 #120

What bullshit SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #122

What do you have against juries? sadbear Jun 2012 #124

What part of no law was broken? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #125

"The elderly man was in fear of his life..." sadbear Jun 2012 #126

No its not SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #128

"How can you have a trial if no laws were violated?" sadbear Jun 2012 #129

The police and DA both determined, after an investigation with plenty of SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #130

I hope no one shoots you... sadbear Jun 2012 #132

I hope not either SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #133

It happens all the time - that's why they write laws in the first place hack89 Jun 2012 #80

My parents live in this county justiceischeap Jun 2012 #48

No your not all good SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #51

Provoke them how? By sitting in the car with your wife and grandson? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #58

Especially an elderly person SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #61

Laying a gun on your lap and shooting someone when you can drive away, deserves at least trial. Hoyt Jun 2012 #66

And what actions would be on trial? OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #73

That's the problem 1/10, law allows one with a gun to shoot people when they could have left. Hoyt Jun 2012 #74

Your really flailing here Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #83

Oh, so now you can shoot an unarmed man and say you didn't know if he were armed? Hoyt Jun 2012 #87

Once again Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #92

The motorcyclist could have driven off too. Kaleva Jun 2012 #91

And he should have, but that doesn't give a man with a gun the right to shoot an unarmed person Hoyt Jun 2012 #96

Stick around until he gets so tired from punching that he collapses in exhaustion? Cave_Johnson Jun 2012 #98

And don't shoot unarmed people who may have "punched" once (and that is in question). Hoyt Jun 2012 #104

So your true colors finally come out , eh, Hoyt? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #106

How many times should I get beaten before I am allowed to defend myself? Cave_Johnson Jun 2012 #111

In this situation roll up windows, mash the accelerator and leave. Hoyt Jun 2012 #115

You got one thing right... Cave_Johnson Jun 2012 #116

One thing about Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #119

The fact that people carry guns scares criminals and big mussel bound fist users ...and L0oniX Jun 2012 #145

The anti gun agenda is obvious ...all over DU. L0oniX Jun 2012 #144

How big was he? Do you know? Hoyt Jun 2012 #152

Alot bigger than the elderly man SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #155

How do you know that? Gun shooter did something immoral. Hoyt Jun 2012 #169

Gun ownership is not my concern. Gun toting and this case is. Hoyt Jun 2012 #153

You really are something else SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #157

People will recognize "your agenda" at some point. Hoyt Jun 2012 #167

Ha Ha Ha thats funny Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #174

Perhaps he did not realize the guy would be assaulting him. OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #103

Well if that were the assumption, why did driver/shooter pull his gun and place it in his lap first? Hoyt Jun 2012 #105

I can't say... Personally, I just keep mine in the open between the two front seats. OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #107

Poor tactical choice to assault older people. OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #67

What do you mean this guy isn't into macho crap -- he carried and pulled a gun first when he could Hoyt Jun 2012 #75

Nice job of totally mis-representing the facts there Hoyt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #93

What did I misrepresent? Rather than leaving, driver pulled his gun before cyclist got to his car. Hoyt Jun 2012 #95

Apparently your not reading what I have wrote SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #99

This is a common misconceptoin I've seen you and many other anti's state... OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #100

Deep down I think he knows that SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #102

That's the weird part... Cave_Johnson Jun 2012 #113

I agree with the prosecutor's decision not to file charges rollin74 Jun 2012 #60

I don't feel any sympathy for the 49 year old at all. Kaleva Jun 2012 #82

Neither do I, and it just occurred to me that the subject line conveys a simple but obvious irony slackmaster Jun 2012 #109

He should spit on the DA and punch him n/t Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #88

Coming up #6 on Shocking American Shoot Outs....! Evasporque Jun 2012 #90

“But for the grace of God, I would be a dead man,” JVS Jun 2012 #108

"when any silly driving situation turns into a shooting?" flvegan Jun 2012 #173

I hate to say it, but Randell should just be thankful he's alive Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #188

we don't have all the details dsc Jun 2012 #196

It may be the law, but I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around that sadbear Jun 2012 #200

Hitting someone one can kill or severely injure them. hack89 Jun 2012 #202

We're talking about someone sitting in their car getting hit by someone standing outside of it. sadbear Jun 2012 #203

Google "one punch kills man" and this is a sample of what you get hack89 Jun 2012 #204

Keep your hands on the handbars or on wrapped around the steering wheel and there Raine Jun 2012 #198