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In reply to the discussion: Gene Wilder - Atheist [View all]

Warren DeMontague

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40. He wasn't interested in having an actual discussion, clearly.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 07:54 AM
Aug 2016

I mean to my mind, there are some real interesting philosophical questions- what are "we" or certainly what distinguishes one of us from any other, if not the things we say, the things we do, the people we influence, love or touch, etc? And by extension, the words and thoughts we leave behind? Thomas Jefferson is with us, I believe, through the documents he wrote and ideas he put down. Van Gogh still talks to us through his paintings. Etc. etc.

And like I said upthread, we are not even necessarily the same person from moment to moment, year to year. As all things do, we change.

So on the flip side, if one does believe in a self or a soul or a point of awareness that exists beyond the temporal or the ego or the individual, beyond names and selves and all that, one that exists above and beyond the transitory, then at its core is that whatever-it-is any different inside of "me" than it is in "you"? Once we strip away the ego and the name and all the things "we" leave behind?

I don't know. Words are clumsy tools for communicating some concepts. But I appreciate your insight on the question, here.

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Gene Wilder - Atheist [View all] stopbush Aug 2016 OP
Sounds like a pretty good plan to me. OriginalGeek Aug 2016 #1
and... Jeffersons Ghost Aug 2016 #8
lots of brilliant minds are underpaid Younemeen Aug 2016 #21
IMDB says 1995! TexasBushwhacker Aug 2016 #2
Jewish Atheist! mucifer Aug 2016 #3
Not any more. rug Aug 2016 #4
If it makes you feel better edhopper Aug 2016 #5
It is the reality now, isn't it ed? rug Aug 2016 #16
I took your post to say edhopper Aug 2016 #31
I took it as a simple fact pintobean Aug 2016 #33
True. Now he's just dead. REP Aug 2016 #10
Classy. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #13
No, actually I learned that from Hitchens. rug Aug 2016 #18
I know he does Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #22
Those are pixels and words, not the person. rug Aug 2016 #23
Pixels and words aren't the person? Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #25
Er, no. rug Aug 2016 #26
wow, that was fast. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #27
Only six characters rug Aug 2016 #29
You accused me of preaching, so I figured I owed you a little pulpit thumping, so to speak. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #30
HOLY SHIT I'M STILL HERE Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #41
Always. Think about it. rug Aug 2016 #42
You assume I haven't? Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #43
You know, we used to believe in ghosts. Many still do. WestCoastLib Aug 2016 #35
He wasn't interested in having an actual discussion, clearly. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #40
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #14
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #19
And to think I thought you were so happy at jpr. rug Aug 2016 #20
Wow. demmiblue Aug 2016 #24
Not any more. AlbertCat Aug 2016 #34
He would probably laugh edhopper Aug 2016 #6
Yes. Very disrespectful of his wife of the past 25 years, stopbush Aug 2016 #7
Well, there's room for both, if that's what one believes. DawgHouse Aug 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author edhopper Aug 2016 #32
That too REP Aug 2016 #12
Just to set the record straight leftynyc Aug 2016 #15
'Rejoining' with god is one way to explain it REP Aug 2016 #36
It was explained to me leftynyc Aug 2016 #37
3 Jews, 5 opinions :-) REP Aug 2016 #38
Agree leftynyc Aug 2016 #39
I never knew he remarried. Lunabell Aug 2016 #28
I thought they were weird REP Aug 2016 #11
If he was Buddhist, one way of looking at it is to say that all things contain the Buddha nature. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #17
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