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In reply to the discussion: A New Book Called ‘Cat Wars’ Calls For Killing Free-Ranging Cats [View all]mike_c
(37,051 posts)24. use a cat flap....
Then cats can go to the bathroom wherever they want. We use a flap, and have several litter boxes as well.
No evidence
Despite the large numbers of birds killed, there is no scientific evidence that predation by cats in gardens is having any impact on bird populations UK-wide. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease, or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds.
We also know that of the millions of baby birds hatched each year, most will die before they reach breeding age. This is also quite natural, and each pair needs only to rear two young that survive to breeding age to replace themselves and maintain the population.
It is likely that most of the birds killed by cats would have died anyway from other causes before the next breeding season, so cats are unlikely to have a major impact on populations. If their predation was additional to these other causes of mortality, this might have a serious impact on bird populations.
Those bird species that have undergone the most serious population declines in the UK (such as skylarks, tree sparrows and corn buntings) rarely encounter cats, so cats cannot be causing their declines. Research shows that these declines are usually caused by habitat change or loss, particularly on farmland.
more@link
http://www.rspb.org.uk/makeahomeforwildlife/advice/gardening/unwantedvisitors/cats/birddeclines.aspx (Royal Society for the Protection of Birds)
Despite the large numbers of birds killed, there is no scientific evidence that predation by cats in gardens is having any impact on bird populations UK-wide. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease, or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds.
We also know that of the millions of baby birds hatched each year, most will die before they reach breeding age. This is also quite natural, and each pair needs only to rear two young that survive to breeding age to replace themselves and maintain the population.
It is likely that most of the birds killed by cats would have died anyway from other causes before the next breeding season, so cats are unlikely to have a major impact on populations. If their predation was additional to these other causes of mortality, this might have a serious impact on bird populations.
Those bird species that have undergone the most serious population declines in the UK (such as skylarks, tree sparrows and corn buntings) rarely encounter cats, so cats cannot be causing their declines. Research shows that these declines are usually caused by habitat change or loss, particularly on farmland.
more@link
http://www.rspb.org.uk/makeahomeforwildlife/advice/gardening/unwantedvisitors/cats/birddeclines.aspx (Royal Society for the Protection of Birds)
And please stop putting words in peoples mouths. If I meant to say "Let the cats kill as many birds as they want because birds are also dying of other causes" I would have said that. Instead, I said that against the natural background mortality of birds, cat predation has little or no effect on bird populations.
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I agree Feral cats have to live a really terrible life. If the book is what you say or you are
EV_Ares
Aug 2016
#2
Cats are a hammer on birds, reptiles, invertebrates, native pollinators and more critters
Botany
Aug 2016
#3
so all those dead birds were not "sentient beings" who hads no "emotional lives"? nt
msongs
Aug 2016
#4
I'm a professional ecologist with nearly 25 years experience in post-doctoral academic science...
mike_c
Aug 2016
#12
Let the cats kill as many birds as they want because birds are also dying of other causes?
Doremus
Aug 2016
#16
No more so than a 2yr old -- you wouldn't let your child go play in traffic would you?
Doremus
Sep 2016
#33
Cats know how to handle themselves on a level far advanced than a toddler
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Sep 2016
#40
Whether or not the poster eats meat is irrevelant to the fact that it's wrong to let cats roam.
Doremus
Sep 2016
#34
I can't speak for all vegans but I can tell you about myself and how I relate to cats
Doremus
Sep 2016
#39
leash and license laws are identical, selfish cat owners are just scofflaws eom
TransitJohn
Sep 2016
#47