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kentuck

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68. GOTV or go TV ?

Thu Sep 1, 2016, 05:43 PM

Sep 2016

Trump has done nothing except stir up division. He gave us an idea of how he would be as President when he went down to Mexico and stirred up a hornet's nest there.

In my opinion, we can have all the polls we want but sometimes, the voters fool the experts.

I am hesitant to permit any type of over-confidence, knowing that a lot of elevators do not go all the way to the top. But, in a democracy, we must trust the judgement of the people. If the people decide to put a tyrant in charge, then they have to be ready to accept responsibility for their action. (their vote)

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Why this race is so close? [View all] kentuck Sep 2016 OP

The media is keeping it close and they and the GOP are selling the "you can't trust Hillary" meme Botany Sep 2016 #1

Over qualified woman and under qualified man. And it's perceived as close? Typical. SharonAnn Sep 2016 #39

Yep, got to sell ad time... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #71

I couldn't agree more... TheDebbieDee Sep 2016 #81

It's not that close Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #2

"Trump is up 10 points over his position last week" - so said Thom Hartmann a minute ago. n/t Peregrine Took Sep 2016 #4

Never believe a talk show host Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #8

Hartmann is a charlatan PSPS Sep 2016 #13

I think Charlatans have their place Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #17

But also says 538. Trump +5 and Hillary -5 in the last few days. Stonepounder Sep 2016 #48

"The reliable R base is at 40%" Botany Sep 2016 #5

I actually don't believe that Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #10

The #s of GOPers who are against Trump keeps growing Botany Sep 2016 #21

that's anecdotal data Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #23

Barbara Bush Botany Sep 2016 #24

"The reliable R base is at 40%" PSPS Sep 2016 #6

The same could be said about Clinton and the Democratic base. former9thward Sep 2016 #36

Sorry, but no. Such a statement would be ridiculous. PSPS Sep 2016 #43

Oh really? former9thward Sep 2016 #49

The primary is over, my friend. PSPS Sep 2016 #65

I know. former9thward Sep 2016 #66

And saying as such would be inaccurate. LanternWaste Sep 2016 #45

Demographics don't vote. kentuck Sep 2016 #7

My cynical experience has been that Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #15

It isn't. The media has to pretend it is so they can fill airtime and sell ads. PSPS Sep 2016 #3

Yep, this election is in the bag. No worries, it's a done deal. No way Trump can win! jonno99 Sep 2016 #28

I think izzybella Sep 2016 #9

Voters are like Pittsburgh Steeler fans... kentuck Sep 2016 #14

I have many relatives exactly like this. Woe be unto people who think that Nay Sep 2016 #29

it's not really all that close. i think we've got the biggest, longest lead since 1996 unblock Sep 2016 #11

The Clinton campaign wants the appearance of a close race as well liberal N proud Sep 2016 #12

Thanks saying that. That is true and it made me feel better! I've been skylucy Sep 2016 #19

that makes sense, and it's very comforting renate Sep 2016 #31

It makes no sense. former9thward Sep 2016 #46

good point, nerve-wracking as it may be to keep hearing how close it is! Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #50

Post removed Post removed Sep 2016 #16

come to think of it, in a way it's impressive that it's *not* very close. unblock Sep 2016 #18

Business as usual is killing us Warpy Sep 2016 #20

It isn't close. Relax. stopbush Sep 2016 #22

538 spanone Sep 2016 #25

+1 jonno99 Sep 2016 #30

This was from 538 yesterday.... Stellar Sep 2016 #58

K&R, possibly because the most publicized polls are rigged... Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 #26

Your allegation, and the anecdotal evidence you use to support the allegation are entertaining. LanternWaste Sep 2016 #47

You use the same phrase twice. It's opinion not allegation like Opinion Polls, which change rapidly. Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 #77

Yes, and all the while they ignore the actual lies and dishonesty of Mr. Trump Maddchick Sep 2016 #27

Because there are a lot of very right-wing people in America. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2016 #32

Trump WILL get the 37%-40% reliably GOP vote. They don't care about his views, just not a Dem. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #33

"Perception Managers" want it close enough to steal librechik Sep 2016 #34

Stealing it takes the cooperation of Cyrano Sep 2016 #35

yeah. I know. They are in a pickle! (LOL) librechik Sep 2016 #69

Sadly...I think it is his racism n/t hibbing Sep 2016 #37

Duh Donald is making the same mistake that R-Money did rocktivity Sep 2016 #38

There is a serious, possibly unwelcome answer. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2016 #40

That may be so but... kentuck Sep 2016 #42

from today's HuffPo ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2016 #51

Because Hillary is brittle as a public figure Cosmocat Sep 2016 #53

I cannot disagree. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2016 #56

She admitted to being a "lousy" campaigner? Cosmocat Sep 2016 #52

The Difference Is between Live and Online polls Wolf Frankula Sep 2016 #41

In the MSM, Hillary automatically gets the assumption of guilt. cry baby Sep 2016 #44

This could be seen coming from a mile away. kristopher Sep 2016 #54

Yesterday was a good example. All day yesterday was a free infomercial for Trump. n/t pnwmom Sep 2016 #55

Donald stole her thunder... kentuck Sep 2016 #57

Never underestimate the power of the media. world wide wally Sep 2016 #59

It is a continuing battle for justice. kentuck Sep 2016 #63

It's not that hard to see it as a partisan confrontation... HereSince1628 Sep 2016 #60

She should be MFM008 Sep 2016 #61

To pose the question, is to know the answer. sylvanus Sep 2016 #62

That is some right-wing BS, kentuck Sep 2016 #67

This race is not close - here's why: piechartking Sep 2016 #64

GOTV or go TV ? kentuck Sep 2016 #68

most of her supporters are minorities . she is unpopular among white men JI7 Sep 2016 #70

I think white males are 30% of population Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2016 #80

both the chicken littles and the cocky types are wrong DonCoquixote Sep 2016 #72

Trump will get the typical 40% GreenEyedLefty Sep 2016 #73

A strong narrowing of the lead usually happens by 100 days out Hortensis Sep 2016 #74

Let's not ignore LWolf Sep 2016 #75

M$M is a Scam in the US. Their M.O. is $$$$$$'s. Americans need to wake up and smell the coffee! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2016 #76

per the posted question heaven05 Sep 2016 #78

The GOP are doing exactly what many Dems are doing sellitman Sep 2016 #79

It's simple brooklynboy49 Sep 2016 #82