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Angel Martin

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10. 30K traffic deaths per year

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 03:38 PM

Sep 2016

I blame all those who ignore the danger to others and continue to own automobiles and drive.

And I blame all auto manufacturers for producing their deadly machines.

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11 facts about gun violence in the United States [View all] yallerdawg Sep 2016 OP

America First in Murders is OK with gunners, as long as they can arm up and tote in public. Hoyt Sep 2016 #1

"America First in Murders is OK with gunners..." EX500rider Sep 2016 #35

We are talking gunz here. Your support of the dang things is obvious. Hoyt Sep 2016 #95

But they're just thugs, right? Matrosov Sep 2016 #2

"You just can't take the effect, and make it the cause." yallerdawg Sep 2016 #7

Fact 12: My neighbor just grabbed his dad's gun after an argument and killed himself AllyCat Sep 2016 #3

ugh Egnever Sep 2016 #8

I don't know your definition of "good" ... Straw Man Sep 2016 #18

Absolutely subjective Egnever Sep 2016 #21

So ... Straw Man Sep 2016 #23

You think the chances of someone dying from a round house are equal to the chances of a gun? Egnever Sep 2016 #25

No. Did I say that? Straw Man Sep 2016 #26

We have the right to frees speech but it does not give the right to Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #28

Exactly. Straw Man Sep 2016 #31

Comparatively absolutely Egnever Sep 2016 #33

C'mon now. Straw Man Sep 2016 #38

You nailed it right here Egnever Sep 2016 #71

No, you cannot... deathrind Sep 2016 #94

What's silly about adhering to the law? Straw Man Sep 2016 #99

Which is it? Egnever Sep 2016 #102

Which is what? Straw Man Sep 2016 #105

limiting the behavior of everyone but the criminal Egnever Sep 2016 #107

Exactly. Straw Man Sep 2016 #109

Dont know where you are getting I am preemptively taking rights away from people Egnever Sep 2016 #111

From you. Straw Man Sep 2016 #113

You keep repeating things as if that makes them different Egnever Sep 2016 #114

They're not trying to kill each other jack_krass Sep 2016 #46

+1,000 n/t malaise Sep 2016 #59

Cue gun apologists to defend their cult and blame the 'urban' factor. nt onehandle Sep 2016 #4

See post 6 below. You were right!! AllyCat Sep 2016 #63

A favorite saying among gun rights people is that we always claim that 'blood will run in the flamin lib Sep 2016 #5

Nonsense hack89 Sep 2016 #6

+1 forthemiddle Sep 2016 #11

Why don't we do what we say we are going to do? yallerdawg Sep 2016 #19

Only disagree with two of them hack89 Sep 2016 #42

I definitely don't agree with... yallerdawg Sep 2016 #45

Fortunately you are on the wrong side of the law and public opinion hack89 Sep 2016 #52

Depends entirely on who wins this election... yallerdawg Sep 2016 #55

Hillary will be good for gun owners - just like Obama hack89 Sep 2016 #56

Good! yallerdawg Sep 2016 #57

I agree with most of them hack89 Sep 2016 #61

From wiki: yallerdawg Sep 2016 #62

It is a state issue hack89 Sep 2016 #65

Those deaths are on your hands, toters. mwrguy Sep 2016 #9

30K traffic deaths per year Angel Martin Sep 2016 #10

False comparison. Except for the fact that auto makers killed the streetcars in the USA. JanMichael Sep 2016 #12

My car is insured. I'm required to pass a test to use it. Every year, I pay to register it with the LanternWaste Sep 2016 #14

Want to take the analogy all the way? Straw Man Sep 2016 #20

Not very honest Egnever Sep 2016 #24

I beg your pardon? Straw Man Sep 2016 #29

Pretty simple Egnever Sep 2016 #36

And the truth comes out. Straw Man Sep 2016 #39

but, but, but... Angel Martin Sep 2016 #40

I don't know who they are Egnever Sep 2016 #69

That's their common sense restriction Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #73

No that is what would do it effectively Egnever Sep 2016 #81

So you admit Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #84

nope can't admit that Egnever Sep 2016 #87

Nope to a database Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #88

We shall see Egnever Sep 2016 #90

Yes, we shall. Straw Man Sep 2016 #96

It would make me happy Egnever Sep 2016 #98

So ... Straw Man Sep 2016 #101

Not a bit Egnever Sep 2016 #104

"Nobody wants to take your guns" Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #72

He asked what would guarentee adherence Egnever Sep 2016 #80

Weapons are not a free for all Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #83

none of which can be in a database that traces ownership Egnever Sep 2016 #85

Records are kept for all new weapons sales Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #86

Yea thats a good story. Egnever Sep 2016 #89

Do tell. Straw Man Sep 2016 #97

Your ridiculous comparisons are entertaining I will give you that. Egnever Sep 2016 #100

You still haven't told us what registration will achieve. Straw Man Sep 2016 #103

I have said many times what it would acheive Egnever Sep 2016 #106

No, you haven't. Straw Man Sep 2016 #108

Just as everyone is not capable of operating a vehicle, likewise not everyone is Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #30

I wouldn't argue with that. Straw Man Sep 2016 #34

Yep, back in the day Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #75

False. beevul Sep 2016 #66

Pesky facts again Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #76

OMG Skittles Sep 2016 #27

As are you. oneshooter Sep 2016 #91

I also drink beer - are drunk driving deaths my responsibility too? hack89 Sep 2016 #13

Is beer designed soley to kill? mwrguy Sep 2016 #16

Designed solely to intoxicate. Plays a major role in addiction, violence and sexual assault. hack89 Sep 2016 #17

I would argue that alcohol has a much greater negative impact on society TheHound Sep 2016 #41

No. Straw Man Sep 2016 #22

Is there a good purpose for alcohol? Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #77

Any other groups you'd like to blame as a whole for the actions of individual members? friendly_iconoclast Sep 2016 #58

No, just gun humpers and their enablers in the NRA mwrguy Sep 2016 #68

Do you believe some sort of collective punishment would be in order for the 'responsible' groups? friendly_iconoclast Sep 2016 #112

The United States sheshe2 Sep 2016 #15

To you. former9thward Sep 2016 #32

The US is ranked 108th in homicide rates....are the other 107 countries more of a embarrassment? EX500rider Sep 2016 #37

Homicide rates, not Homicide by Firearm. maxsolomon Sep 2016 #47

Oh, are you more dead some how by firearms then other means? EX500rider Sep 2016 #48

topic of the thread is homicides by firearm maxsolomon Sep 2016 #49

Still if the overall rate is 3.9 the firearm rate is less then that... EX500rider Sep 2016 #51

My chart is overall firearm deaths/100,000 maxsolomon Sep 2016 #53

Thread end right there Egnever Sep 2016 #70

I agree with you. yallerdawg Sep 2016 #54

Piss on guns. hunter Sep 2016 #43

Many fetishes are nasty TheHound Sep 2016 #44

Do you have guns? hunter Sep 2016 #50

And *there* is the problem with approaches like yours: "In my own experience..." friendly_iconoclast Sep 2016 #60

Tell me your own experience then. hunter Sep 2016 #64

A fairly normal existence Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #79

Sure, shooting guns is fun... hunter Sep 2016 #93

It's the question you asked Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #115

No one's experiences are universal friendly_iconoclast Sep 2016 #110

I've never shot an animal TheHound Sep 2016 #67

I have dogs, all rescue dogs. They eat meat and meat by-products I buy in big bags at Costco. hunter Sep 2016 #92

Out of every million people, 30 are murdered by a gun? The2ndWheel Sep 2016 #74

Where we are now. yallerdawg Sep 2016 #78

I'm not saying it's a good number The2ndWheel Sep 2016 #82

Locking Chemisse Sep 2016 #116