11 facts about gun violence in the United States

[Straw Man]

109. Exactly.

that is NRA group speak scarcity trickles all the way down the chain. Many people weren't criminals until they were.

OK -- so you want to make it harder for responsible people to own firearms so that there won't be as many for criminals to steal? And you want to preemptively take away rights from people who aren't criminals because they might someday become criminals?

What kind of group-speak is that?

I don't think you are the problem I believe you when you say that you are a responsible gun owner. What I don't buy is the idea that most gun owners are. I think a lot of them think they are but few really are. I think many gun owners think because they haven't shot someone they are a responsible gun owner.

And you base this on your own personal experience of gun owners, which is (a) limited, and (b) atypical.

I want to know that when you buy a gun you are taking responsibility for that gun (not you personally) that if something happens with that gun there is no mistaking it was your gun and that you were responsible for it and i want you held responsible for the damage that was done.

Guess what? When somebody does something irresponsible with a gun, that person is responsible for the damage that was done with it. If someone steals my gun, I'm no longer responsible for it. The only way your registration scenario accomplishes anything is if (a) I give my gun to someone who is irresponsible or a criminal, (b) that person commits a crime with it, (c) that person is apprehended, and (d) that person has my gun in his/her possession when he/she is apprehended. That's a lot of conditions to meet.

None of that would effect you in any way if you are the person you say you are and I believe you are. You would register your guns responsibly and go about doing your thing.

As I've told you, I already do -- the handguns, as required by law. Now there is talk in NY about a ban on all semi-autos, which are far and away the most popular and numerous handguns in the world today. If such a thing were to pass, I would have no choice but to comply. They know where I live.

I would be a lot more comfortable with talk of registration on the whole if it wasn't coming from the mouths of people who advocate such bans. As it is, I see no reason to compromise with people whose idea of meeting halfway is to only force you to take one step backwards rather than two.