11 facts about gun violence in the United States

[Straw Man]

113. From you.

Dont know where you are getting I am preemptively taking rights away from people

By requiring they register their guns?

You've already said that in your ideal world, there would be no guns. Why should I see your insistence on a registry as anything but a way to get to that goal? I've already explained how it would be of little or no use in controlling crime.

Making excuses as to how you can get around it is not an argument against it.

It isn't? So you're in favor of passing easily-circumvented laws that will do nothing against the behavior of criminals? Why, unless it's an incremental step toward an overall ban, something that you've already said you'd like to see.

I find your scenarios constant reliance on gun crimes always being stolen guns to be far fetched.

Either they're stolen guns or trafficked guns. For the most part, people committing crimes are already "prohibited persons." Anyone selling such a person a gun is breaking the law.

I find it even more far fetched if the chances of stolen guns being traced back to their original owner was easier to accomplish.

That makes absolutely no sense. You're saying that criminals wouldn't steal guns if there was a way to trace guns back to their original owner? But there is: the serial number, as reported to the police by the theft victim. Yet criminals continue to steal guns. It's not the only way they get guns, but it's one of the biggies.