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Hortensis

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39. Thanks for the info. With all this activity, I'm wondering why
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:41 AM
Sep 2016

these people didn't take action to protect what they claimed to be sacred sites before. Even if there were no damages to sue for before, surely before would have been the time to act? After, of course, provides opportunity for publicity and monetary damages, while before requires investment of money, long lonely hours with few caring, and perhaps a long fight to force sale of even dirt-cheap land if the owners didn't want to part with it.

I don't automatically buy the excuses people offer for their actions since they're so often only the ketchup dressing up the meatloaf. Real, but the meatloaf came first and nobody'd bother with the ketchup without it.

For instance, given that no one wants pipelines except those who plan to benefit, and that some react as if a hammer had been taken to their knee at first mention of the word, also that populist and racial/ethnic resentments are pretty strong these days, I have a strong suspicion that those are part of this and would be even if it didn't have to go under a river. After all, they could insist on the very best construction to make sure it's done well, and that's not happening.

I don't mind if they stop this, I'm all for transitioning to sustainable energy asap, and no profits from this one would go in my pocket. Nor, and this is huge, do I worry about losing my own life-enabling power if this one doesn't go through. I'm just not automatically impressed. "Water is sacred" while we. and most of them no doubt, empty our aquifers down our sink drains and into the gutters? Sorry, but give me a break.

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We have 1.5 million miles of pipeline Travis_0004 Sep 2016 #1
reading is fun edhopper Sep 2016 #3
And of those 1.5 million miles of pipeline check out the list of pipeline accidents in one yr in US womanofthehills Sep 2016 #11
+1 rusty quoin Sep 2016 #20
This should be an OP. Valuable info here ms liberty Sep 2016 #32
A couple of things rpannier Sep 2016 #17
No one's on the side of evil profiteers hiring private Hortensis Sep 2016 #22
Your concern... tonedevil Sep 2016 #42
Should I have called for child protective services to step in? Hortensis Sep 2016 #47
so wrong G_j Sep 2016 #48
Come on. They pulled down a fence and drove, rode, Hortensis Sep 2016 #50
crossing a fence may be trespassing G_j Sep 2016 #51
"May be"? It is trespassing and they crossed Hortensis Sep 2016 #53
sorry G_j Sep 2016 #55
That's just putting profits over people nikto Sep 2016 #18
Mauling people and taking their land is legal if you're rich. ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #2
And if you put yourself in front of one of their machines or up in a tree womanofthehills Sep 2016 #12
Oh, you have the wrong idea. This isn't about reservation land, Hortensis Sep 2016 #23
The specific sites are graveyards. yellerpup Sep 2016 #30
Thanks for the info. With all this activity, I'm wondering why Hortensis Sep 2016 #39
Running water is a rarity on reservations in this area. yellerpup Sep 2016 #40
The land is owned by the Army corp of engineers Travis_0004 Sep 2016 #24
Those G4S are the new GOONs. They want a violent encounter NightWatcher Sep 2016 #4
HOLY Fucking Crap !!!!! vkkv Sep 2016 #5
This disgusts me to no end. SMC22307 Sep 2016 #6
Fox has a small article womanofthehills Sep 2016 #13
More disgusting - ABC News - lies - claiming no protesters were injured only seurity guards womanofthehills Sep 2016 #15
Much like the armed strike breaking Pinkerton guards elmac Sep 2016 #7
I hope the protesters aren't branded as "radical leftists".nt jalan48 Sep 2016 #8
Of course they will ArcticFox Sep 2016 #14
+1000 G_j Sep 2016 #49
K&R, what do you mean, Birmingham ND? This is happening at Cannon Ball, ND. uppityperson Sep 2016 #9
Play on words. Birmingham, Ala where the police turned dogs on protestors in the 50s rpannier Sep 2016 #16
Mahalo (thank you). KamaAina Sep 2016 #44
Philámayaye uppityperson Sep 2016 #46
In the 1950-60s, Birmingham was referred to as "Bombingham." Over 60 reasons for that. Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #52
Let the lawsuits begin! TexasBushwhacker Sep 2016 #10
Contractors break the law all over the world, Halliburton 600% profit in Iraq both have the umbrella orpupilofnature57 Sep 2016 #28
Pretty sure the 1st doesn't cover trespassing onto other peoples' property linuxman Sep 2016 #54
You can see the blood all over the snout of the black dog after he has bitten a protester: tblue37 Sep 2016 #19
You saw this right? yuiyoshida Sep 2016 #21
It looked peaceful until the tore down the fence and charged at the construction workers. Travis_0004 Sep 2016 #25
Unless you count ripping up land that isn't yours, being there with attack dogs, Peaceful ? orpupilofnature57 Sep 2016 #27
The land is owned by the Army Corps of engineers Travis_0004 Sep 2016 #29
Construction was halted while the permits were verified. yellerpup Sep 2016 #31
And now they have them and construction is resuming. Travis_0004 Sep 2016 #34
Perhaps they have been approved by the Governor, yellerpup Sep 2016 #35
As they should, Obviously the Constitution can't protect people water, we should be checked now . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2016 #36
The Constitution protects people. yellerpup Sep 2016 #38
Exactly !!!! The Constitution was based on Checks & Balances, and the will of the people over orpupilofnature57 Sep 2016 #43
Howa! yellerpup Sep 2016 #45
Amy Goodman was there as it unfolded, Chuck Toad, Tweety Mathews were walking the dog !!!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2016 #26
army core thugs guss Sep 2016 #33
Going through the thread, I read the army corps owns the land yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #37
The land owner leases it to the Energy Corporation, and is compensated for Use and Damage, We orpupilofnature57 Sep 2016 #41
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