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patrice

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36. I understand, except that I think we're talking about pie here, not misery. That's the vision thing,

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:51 PM

Jun 2012

which I think Labor must have an intrinsic role in formulating. For that we need authentic Labor reform, something along the lines sketched in my post #35 here, which is why I brought up this point about PWM in the first place.

I like this point about why PWM appear to be "voting against their best interests". I expect that I will use that, but I fear that it can apply to any other ethnic group too, which means we now need to turn "Let's make a deal for me/mine" into "Let's make a deal for EVERYONE, even those _____________ who don't like me" and that adds up to Labor that's far far different from what we see out there right now.

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The Republican Party is the White Party [View all] cthulu2016 Jun 2012 OP

That's exactly the point. swayne Jun 2012 #1

The white MALE party. polichick Jun 2012 #2

Well, now, I think we can expand it... Scootaloo Jun 2012 #4

Add the word Xenophobe. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #8

Yes and no cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #6

yes exactly--that's also why they pretend that Dems are "girls" librechik Jun 2012 #7

I, and some others, think the party differences are CLASS, not race. There are plenty of "Whites" patrice Jun 2012 #3

I used to think the same, and there's some truth to the matter Scootaloo Jun 2012 #5

You can think that but it isn't true cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #9

So you are in favor of dividing the parties by race? patrice Jun 2012 #11

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What is the logic of "The Republican Party is the White Party"? Not "a", "the White Party" i.e. . . patrice Jun 2012 #20

Using language the way people use language is communicative cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #25

k. "the" is still the definite article, limiting to ONE specific person/place/thing - and - "a" patrice Jun 2012 #33

Ayup, okay, so what happens if you take the white male vote out of the picture? Zalatix Jun 2012 #17

Sorry, I don't understand. White males don't suffer from economic injustice? If I care about patrice Jun 2012 #19

And the Democratic Party isn't? What about poor Whites? Are they better off as Republicans? nt patrice Jun 2012 #10

The Democratic party should become the elderly party as well aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #12

No, it's the party of hate and fear. ananda Jun 2012 #13

Some whites. Zalatix Jun 2012 #18

Which is my point. OP subject is a BROAD brush; what about poor Whites? patrice Jun 2012 #21

It is not broad brush cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #26

So don't play THEIR game. nt patrice Jun 2012 #34

Another DUer pointed out something I found very illuminating: malthaussen Jun 2012 #27

I understand, except that I think we're talking about pie here, not misery. That's the vision thing, patrice Jun 2012 #36

Ummmm Zalatix Jun 2012 #31

We don't need the majority of the White vote, but that doesn't mean that we don't need a significant patrice Jun 2012 #35

Actually, they are a "big-tent" party these days SoCalDem Jun 2012 #14

The white 1%ers and the willfully ignorant. lpbk2713 Jun 2012 #16

And race is a handy way to do that, especially with anyone who is already pissed off about economic patrice Jun 2012 #22

So very true. lpbk2713 Jun 2012 #23

And, in my real life experience, poor white males are more often paranoid rather than not. nt patrice Jun 2012 #24

This PWM sure is malthaussen Jun 2012 #28

Talking about family here, but lol anyway . . . patrice Jun 2012 #29

The Plutocracy is NOT ignorant - they create this divide by design. Zalatix Jun 2012 #32

It is also the KOOK party. michaelcobb Jun 2012 #30

White's Only Party is a better fit Son of Gob Jun 2012 #37