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Hortensis

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53. "May be"? It is trespassing and they crossed
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 06:02 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Mon Sep 5, 2016, 06:49 PM - Edit history (2)

the fence to stop the bulldozers even though that private property was protected by guards and workmen with guard dogs who had been granted rights to be there by the property owners. The trespassers also brought some big dogs themselves.

Now, assuming I were among that group and imagined that sites I'd paid no attention to before and never visited before were nevertheless sacred to me, I would have crossed also to try to stop the bulldozing.

BUT, and here's a big but -- I wouldn't lie and pretend that these guys who were doing their job somehow came outside the fence and attacked me. This was incited by the trespassers. I imagine IF I were one of them I'd have been proud of it and certainly not lied and pretended I was a victim.

I'd be far, far prouder, though, if we'd just purchased the land a long time ago, or even if we'd gone and confronted the pipeline company owners at their homes some time ago, however, alerting the media to that. You know, the guys who ordered the bulldozers out this time before a court order could be belatedly obtained. People from 500 tribes demanding changes in the yards of oil barons and/or corrupt legislators, threatening to clobber them with flag poles, would be something I could really get behind.

Wikipedia:

Dakota Access, LLC is a fully owned subsidiary of Energy Transfer Partners LP (ETP), a Master limited partnership based in Dallas, Texas. Morningstar described ETP as a "steady source of income over the long haul", because of the Master limited partnership mandate for big dividends, avoiding the "double taxation" of dividends.[6]

In June 2014 Energy Transfer's board of directors approved of the Bakken pipeline. In October 2014 Houston-based Phillips 66 became a joint venture partner owning a 25 percent stake. Phillips co-owns the 'Energy Transfer' crude oil pipeline from Patoka to storage terminals in Nederland, Texas. It co-owns the storage terminals with Philadelphia-based Sunoco Logistics Partners.[1] Sunoco is a fully owned subsidiary of Energy Transfer Partners since 2012.


Energy Transfer Equity was founded in 1995[1] and is headquartered in Dallas, Texas.[1] They employ 5,000 individuals[1] including the founder, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, Kelcy Warren.

Energy Transfer Partners, L.P. is a master limited partnership owning and operating one of the largest and most diversified portfolios of energy assets in the United States. ETP has natural gas operations that include approximately 24,000 miles of gathering and transportation pipelines, treating and processing assets, and storage facilities.


Billionaire Kelcy Warren. He lives in Houston, so if they wanted to hit him with their flag poles they'd probably need to lease busses and head on down.

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We have 1.5 million miles of pipeline Travis_0004 Sep 2016 #1
reading is fun edhopper Sep 2016 #3
And of those 1.5 million miles of pipeline check out the list of pipeline accidents in one yr in US womanofthehills Sep 2016 #11
+1 rusty quoin Sep 2016 #20
This should be an OP. Valuable info here ms liberty Sep 2016 #32
A couple of things rpannier Sep 2016 #17
No one's on the side of evil profiteers hiring private Hortensis Sep 2016 #22
Your concern... tonedevil Sep 2016 #42
Should I have called for child protective services to step in? Hortensis Sep 2016 #47
so wrong G_j Sep 2016 #48
Come on. They pulled down a fence and drove, rode, Hortensis Sep 2016 #50
crossing a fence may be trespassing G_j Sep 2016 #51
"May be"? It is trespassing and they crossed Hortensis Sep 2016 #53
sorry G_j Sep 2016 #55
That's just putting profits over people nikto Sep 2016 #18
Mauling people and taking their land is legal if you're rich. ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #2
And if you put yourself in front of one of their machines or up in a tree womanofthehills Sep 2016 #12
Oh, you have the wrong idea. This isn't about reservation land, Hortensis Sep 2016 #23
The specific sites are graveyards. yellerpup Sep 2016 #30
Thanks for the info. With all this activity, I'm wondering why Hortensis Sep 2016 #39
Running water is a rarity on reservations in this area. yellerpup Sep 2016 #40
The land is owned by the Army corp of engineers Travis_0004 Sep 2016 #24
Those G4S are the new GOONs. They want a violent encounter NightWatcher Sep 2016 #4
HOLY Fucking Crap !!!!! vkkv Sep 2016 #5
This disgusts me to no end. SMC22307 Sep 2016 #6
Fox has a small article womanofthehills Sep 2016 #13
More disgusting - ABC News - lies - claiming no protesters were injured only seurity guards womanofthehills Sep 2016 #15
Much like the armed strike breaking Pinkerton guards elmac Sep 2016 #7
I hope the protesters aren't branded as "radical leftists".nt jalan48 Sep 2016 #8
Of course they will ArcticFox Sep 2016 #14
+1000 G_j Sep 2016 #49
K&R, what do you mean, Birmingham ND? This is happening at Cannon Ball, ND. uppityperson Sep 2016 #9
Play on words. Birmingham, Ala where the police turned dogs on protestors in the 50s rpannier Sep 2016 #16
Mahalo (thank you). KamaAina Sep 2016 #44
Philámayaye uppityperson Sep 2016 #46
In the 1950-60s, Birmingham was referred to as "Bombingham." Over 60 reasons for that. Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #52
Let the lawsuits begin! TexasBushwhacker Sep 2016 #10
Contractors break the law all over the world, Halliburton 600% profit in Iraq both have the umbrella orpupilofnature57 Sep 2016 #28
Pretty sure the 1st doesn't cover trespassing onto other peoples' property linuxman Sep 2016 #54
You can see the blood all over the snout of the black dog after he has bitten a protester: tblue37 Sep 2016 #19
You saw this right? yuiyoshida Sep 2016 #21
It looked peaceful until the tore down the fence and charged at the construction workers. Travis_0004 Sep 2016 #25
Unless you count ripping up land that isn't yours, being there with attack dogs, Peaceful ? orpupilofnature57 Sep 2016 #27
The land is owned by the Army Corps of engineers Travis_0004 Sep 2016 #29
Construction was halted while the permits were verified. yellerpup Sep 2016 #31
And now they have them and construction is resuming. Travis_0004 Sep 2016 #34
Perhaps they have been approved by the Governor, yellerpup Sep 2016 #35
As they should, Obviously the Constitution can't protect people water, we should be checked now . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2016 #36
The Constitution protects people. yellerpup Sep 2016 #38
Exactly !!!! The Constitution was based on Checks & Balances, and the will of the people over orpupilofnature57 Sep 2016 #43
Howa! yellerpup Sep 2016 #45
Amy Goodman was there as it unfolded, Chuck Toad, Tweety Mathews were walking the dog !!!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2016 #26
army core thugs guss Sep 2016 #33
Going through the thread, I read the army corps owns the land yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #37
The land owner leases it to the Energy Corporation, and is compensated for Use and Damage, We orpupilofnature57 Sep 2016 #41
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