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Ford_Prefect

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61. my point is that as a "lefty" after all that's been said this year I'm effing tired of the labeling.

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 08:00 PM

Sep 2016

"The part of the left that the OP was criticizing cannot bring themselves to admit that" is just fine. They are out there.

However, remarks that state "The Regressive Left" out of context as a stand alone headline are more inclusive than is appropriate in my view and obscure the intended distinction, seeming to imply the Left is regressive as a whole. "Left Wing Regressives" might be closer to the mark, but maybe I'm only splitting hairs.

I'm too effing tired of all the BS labeling from the primary season to put up with more now, however unintended. I accept that there are those on the left who seem unwilling to look honestly at the complexities of the situation in the Ukraine, and by the way so are many more on the right. I find the labeling of such a POV as regressive a bit offensive however misguided it may be, especially when applied to fellow Democrats here at DU.

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Ladies and Gentlemen: The "Regressive Left" [View all] DetlefK Sep 2016 OP

You called out the author of the OP on the original thread, and created a thread to do it again. Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #1

This not about the other thread. DetlefK Sep 2016 #4

You linked the other. Whatever. Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #11

wtf? Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #34

He linked another DU OP in his OP, and then claims he's not calling her out. Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #36

Yeah I was agreeing with you. Huge callout followed by flippant denial. Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #39

Do you agree that this Opening Post keeps hitting the top in this forum for obvious reasons? Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 #106

Judy Lynn is a long time DU member who tirelessly Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #2

Yes, she does. Igel Sep 2016 #3

"Appeal to authority"? DetlefK Sep 2016 #5

As one who has watched this obsessive labeling of the "left" as "2 legs bad" I worry about you. Ford_Prefect Sep 2016 #6

+1 LWolf Sep 2016 #7

+2 GeorgeGist Sep 2016 #10

+3 riderinthestorm Sep 2016 #15

+4 . .n/t annabanana Sep 2016 #17

+5 nt bananas Sep 2016 #27

My issue is with the willfull ignoring of facts to further an agenda. DetlefK Sep 2016 #28

Duty, obligation, right, desire, need, compulsion: isn't that a matter of taste as much as truth? Ford_Prefect Sep 2016 #38

Sigh. I did not namecall the Left as a whole. DetlefK Sep 2016 #40

I think you reacted in a way that shows the OP hit the mark. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #82

+1. We all know this "regressive left." Just mention... Hortensis Sep 2016 #84

+6 I think there are likely more paid neocon trolls here than paid Russian trolls independentpiney Sep 2016 #55

That is a straw man of that persons argument. He didn't label "the left", just one part of it. stevenleser Sep 2016 #58

my point is that as a "lefty" after all that's been said this year I'm effing tired of the labeling. Ford_Prefect Sep 2016 #61

Of course labeling is bad, now that negative labels are being applied in defense. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #83

Since the rule change Bob or didn't you get the memo? Ford_Prefect Sep 2016 #87

So in other words, you've been here long enough that you should have a thicker skin? BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #89

I've been on so many juries in the last 6 months that dealt with just this kind of issue. Ford_Prefect Sep 2016 #90

You seem confused. Between the two of us, I'm not the one with the problem. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #97

Again you repeat the initial error in syntax. Silly Rabbit, trix are for kids. Ford_Prefect Sep 2016 #99

As I said before, welcome to the party, however late you may be. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #100

How right you are Bob. Never let it be said that political correctness is only a tool of the left. Ford_Prefect Sep 2016 #101

Lol, so obvious. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #102

You wound me, sir. Why ever would I stoop so low? I am disappointed that you think of me thus. Ford_Prefect Sep 2016 #104

No takers yet, huh? BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #105

+1 Ford saidsimplesimon Sep 2016 #77

No, just pointing out that you called out and insulted Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #25

Uhhhh..... Zorro Sep 2016 #59

+ one more lunatica Sep 2016 #37

You Better Believe It. nt msanthrope Sep 2016 #30

I fondly remember the days LWolf Sep 2016 #8

DU is not about principles or policies GummyBearz Sep 2016 #13

Unfortunately. nt LWolf Sep 2016 #24

Me too. Proudly left wing. nt riderinthestorm Sep 2016 #16

Very true. N/t roamer65 Sep 2016 #18

me too, those days are gone... G_j Sep 2016 #42

Yes, sadly so. suffragette Sep 2016 #43

Kind of like the party and the nation itself. LWolf Sep 2016 #47

Or "radical" or "extreme" left G_j Sep 2016 #50

It is. LWolf Sep 2016 #56

I agree G_j Sep 2016 #63

Heh. It doesn' take much. Hell, LBJ is a Left Bank bomb-thrower by some DUers' reckoning. Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #80

Which is amazing to me. LWolf Sep 2016 #92

At least when you are shocked, there remains vitality and a standard. Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #108

Good points. nt LWolf Sep 2016 #111

Get with the program! Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2016 #44

Well, LWolf Sep 2016 #46

left-wing does not have to mean.... Adrahil Sep 2016 #48

I don't think LWolf Sep 2016 #49

The "left" doesn't.... Adrahil Sep 2016 #51

"If Putin didn't say it, it isn't true!" Oneironaut Sep 2016 #9

Remember when DU celebrated Gaddafi as a left-wing hero? DetlefK Sep 2016 #29

THIS! A million times! BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #85

This ! Angel Martin Sep 2016 #45

Ah-CHOO !!! Iggo Sep 2016 #12

Awesome Labor Day post! hunter Sep 2016 #14

ditto. great timing. nt JanMichael Sep 2016 #32

^^^ Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #81

Fuck Putin and all his defenders and apologists. MicaelS Sep 2016 #19

The apologists certainly are one part of the regressive left, but there's a lot more to it. NuclearDem Sep 2016 #20

And then there are their fellow propaganda artists that work the other angle. Rex Sep 2016 #21

It's certainly a thing. Marr Sep 2016 #22

Can you expand on these standards? ronnie624 Sep 2016 #23

Lets expand on your expansion a bit. Since the end of World War 2 how many other countries stevenleser Sep 2016 #26

I'll bite. Please provide your list of our interventions since WWII that were motivated by human Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #31

I hope you're not holding your breath. Exilednight Sep 2016 #41

Who was helping the US government ronnie624 Sep 2016 #52

No need, my #54 is right below detailing three. And those were off the top of my head. stevenleser Sep 2016 #57

One by one. Exilednight Sep 2016 #60

All of your explanations are besides the point. stevenleser Sep 2016 #62

You set the parameters when you stated Exilednight Sep 2016 #64

The funniest part of your desperate attempt to prevent the US from being stevenleser Sep 2016 #66

First off, your misinterpreting Orwell. Exilednight Sep 2016 #69

Nope, I am not misinterpreting Orwell. nt stevenleser Sep 2016 #93

It's not black and white Steve. Nobody but you said it Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #86

I never said it was black and white and you are the one creating strawmen. nt stevenleser Sep 2016 #94

How many do you want? Here are three. stevenleser Sep 2016 #54

The first two fail to meet your own criteria. I'll give the third, but note Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #68

No they don't. And the criteria was established by both of us. stevenleser Sep 2016 #70

You added the condition that the us was acting Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #76

Nope, I did not. nt stevenleser Sep 2016 #95

The invasion of Iraq was not a blunder. ronnie624 Sep 2016 #71

I was being charitable. Point taken. Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #75

Which is not to mention Grenada and Panama. Both are noble experiments in democracy enforcement by Ford_Prefect Sep 2016 #79

Why do US citizens have a moral obligation to address the conduct of the former Soviet government? NuclearDem Sep 2016 #33

We don't. n/t ronnie624 Sep 2016 #53

Intentions matter. Marr Sep 2016 #72

A pretty standard line of reasoning from the prevailing narrative. ronnie624 Sep 2016 #74

You forgot that every inconvenient occurrence is a false flag. Nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2016 #35

It's sad to see this right-wing term come to DU and see fellow DUers embrace it. Exilednight Sep 2016 #65

I lulz'd KG Sep 2016 #67

The far-left and the far-right merge sometimes in their perspectives but it is useful to read and pampango Sep 2016 #73

epic kick... Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #78

Another slow day post above wins the prize in my book nolabels Sep 2016 #88

What is the reason behind your preoccupation between Russia and Ukraine? HerrKarlMarx Sep 2016 #91

This is a political discussion forum. We discuss politics here, not bowling strategy. stevenleser Sep 2016 #96

I was just curious HerrKarlMarx Sep 2016 #98

I'm just unnerved by the constant propaganda over that topic. DetlefK Sep 2016 #103

Thank you for the explanation HerrKarlMarx Sep 2016 #110

The proper term is "Hate-America-Firster". "Regressive Left" is a RW buzzword for Feminists... Odin2005 Sep 2016 #107

"Regressive Left" is a RW buzzword for Feminists...Well wadda ya know about that? Ford_Prefect Sep 2016 #109