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nolabels

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69. Sorry then about challenging your story, I thought you were trying to B.S.

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 11:05 PM

Sep 2016

How maddening it would seem to me, i could never put up with it. Some group of people telling me how and what i do to MY house.

I have two acres fenced, with lots trees i planted and take care of. The area is dry and hot so they help. In the last ten years mostly i have just about replaced everything fastened to the house. Fifteen years ago found i guy that only built garages. So had him build me a nice three car and don't know what i ever did without it. Seven years ago decided to go solar, so i called a reputable dealer and two weeks later they were installed remotely, on the sunny side of the lot. Yea, i do whatever i feel i need to around here and there is nobody else around to tell me anything about it mostly. I don't know how someone could put up with that situation you have there.

There also something about being a jack of trades and only the master of one. I study and try to understand everything i see especially when has something to do with me or other things that seem important. Alas though, there are so many hours in day a mine are about done now. Hope you have better luck with the house

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Needed now and next decade: Electricians, roofers, plumbers [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2016 OP

That was the big draw of union journeyman programs. procon Sep 2016 #1

Yep Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2016 #2

I Disagree erpowers Sep 2016 #4

Totally agree with you Ms. Yertle Sep 2016 #11

The contempt for blue collar workers... MicaelS Sep 2016 #13

And it only goes one way whatthehey Sep 2016 #17

Of course they were, and so was I, so what? MicaelS Sep 2016 #20

Our party has ceded this demographic to Trump. AngryAmish Sep 2016 #21

Yes they did, and it was dumb. MicaelS Sep 2016 #22

Cultural divide. Igel Sep 2016 #30

That'a a creative and imaginative allegation. LanternWaste Sep 2016 #71

I'd much rather have a 5 year apprenticeship program trained electrician work on my house Peregrine Took Sep 2016 #51

Thank you, sir...nt Callmecrazy Sep 2016 #52

My son is a union electrician. He graduated in 2007, right as the bottom fell Nay Sep 2016 #58

It's not rocket surgery. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2016 #64

No doubt, you base you premise on objective, peer-reviewed information LanternWaste Sep 2016 #72

How many years of education did it take you to "know" that I couldn't do it myself? lumberjack_jeff Sep 2016 #74

You'll notice that the real complaint is not finding "cheap & skilled" labor GOLGO 13 Sep 2016 #3

Haven't priced a plumber lately? whatthehey Sep 2016 #18

Didn't read the article, did ya? X_Digger Sep 2016 #23

BS argument same used in IT... They don't increase the wages enough starting out for people to jump uponit7771 Sep 2016 #38

Why yes, I'm sure $75/hr for unskilled labor would draw folks. X_Digger Sep 2016 #39

That's the point...make it with folks while... The market isn't dictating prices uponit7771 Sep 2016 #41

There's a lack of skilled tradesman. Period. You can't double the rate and plumbers magically appear X_Digger Sep 2016 #42

Why isn't the car industry screaming then...or maybe they are .... Just seems there's a gap uponit7771 Sep 2016 #43

They are! (At least here in Texas, and in Tennessee. I can't speak to Detroit.) X_Digger Sep 2016 #44

Whoa.... What interests folk these days.... I would think a car job would be some theyd give an efor uponit7771 Sep 2016 #47

That, and those plants pay crap for starting wages. Exilednight Sep 2016 #50

Right Lurker Deluxe Sep 2016 #57

That $100000 on college is worth, on average, about Exilednight Sep 2016 #61

Back in the '90s California reduced classroom size for teachers. Igel Sep 2016 #31

Instead of going to college and getting 100,000 dollars in debt yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #5

This is known and quantified. Igel Sep 2016 #32

Let's make sure unions are involved this decade and next Person 2713 Sep 2016 #6

Had to have my washing machine fixed a little while ago dhol82 Sep 2016 #7

Immigrants are very happy to work as roofers and learn skilled trades, given half a chance. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #8

This country is making a huge mistake PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #9

Yup. n/t Ms. Yertle Sep 2016 #12

Learning a trade in a $$$$$ diploma mill mitch96 Sep 2016 #10

A while back I worked in a hospital. On the information desk. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #25

I think colleges ought to offer a liberal arts/trade and business track. MADem Sep 2016 #14

Actually that was (and in many cases still is) the role of Community Colleges. Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #15

It ought to be given prominence. And not "either-or" -- there should be an opportunity MADem Sep 2016 #16

Community colleges have been repurposed over the years. Igel Sep 2016 #33

Get a couple of teachers, and a couple of businesses in a local area to take on interns MADem Sep 2016 #35

Received an Associates Degree in Electronics at a community college 39 years ago. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2016 #19

Many community colleges offer both. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #26

I'd like to see more well rounded tradesmen--basically, they get a liberal arts degree, and "major" MADem Sep 2016 #28

Not everyone who will make a good plumber or electrician gives PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #29

Agreed. Igel Sep 2016 #34

I think, though, that there are a lot of people who WANT to do both. MADem Sep 2016 #36

You have your own personal electrician? (LOL) nolabels Sep 2016 #62

I do--I've had him for a quarter century or more. MADem Sep 2016 #63

In the early days of the automobile a mechanic rode along with the driver because of many breakdowns nolabels Sep 2016 #66

I live in an historic neighborhood where the houses are "wired together." MADem Sep 2016 #68

Sorry then about challenging your story, I thought you were trying to B.S. nolabels Sep 2016 #69

We've been here for generations, so we're fine with it. MADem Sep 2016 #70

In the Bay Area, I can't count the number of "now hiring" signs I've see every day...not fast food, demosincebirth Sep 2016 #24

I worked in the steel industry for nearly 40 years. Back in the 50s 60s and 70s doc03 Sep 2016 #27

I manage skilled laborers in a unionized firm GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #37

Do you shower at the beginning of the work day, or the end? X_Digger Sep 2016 #40

When I was an hourly GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #45

That's it. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2016 #65

Unions Johnny2X2X Sep 2016 #46

Those are hard, dirty jobs! Smart people don't want hard, dirty, dangerous jobs! FrodosPet Sep 2016 #48

^^^this^^^ Well said, indeed... eom Purveyor Sep 2016 #53

Too often these jobs don't come with benefits or vacation time, etc. alarimer Sep 2016 #49

Just out of curiosity Lurker Deluxe Sep 2016 #55

I'm merely pointing out the difficulty of such professions. alarimer Sep 2016 #73

If they can't keep people, it's probably a shitty place to work. Word travels Skeeter Barnes Sep 2016 #54

We haven't trained any for 40 years and all the Union Aprentice programs were starved to death Todays_Illusion Sep 2016 #56

"We are preparing the next generation of students for a world where drains never get stopped up, LongtimeAZDem Sep 2016 #59

Absolute BS Xolodno Sep 2016 #60

That's not all that's needed. Sissyk Sep 2016 #67