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whatthehey

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56. Actually yes
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 03:36 PM
Sep 2016

If you can give reasons. Sound inductive argument that's all. I'm not setting up silly fake goalposts I'll move later like many do here. I'm not a hypocrite. I'm not asking for peer-reviewed empirical proof with t-tests and p values, just basic reasons for why. Please do give them. Just don't give me the usual crap people do when superstitions are questioned. If your reaaons are variations on "it's just not right" then no, don't bother. Because that's not a reason. WHY is it "not right"?

The only thing vaguely approaching a plausible excuse generally offered for insincerity in these cases is to not offend family members (as if offending people were a particular evil that should only be a problem after death. Most of my opinions and yours deeply offend tens of millions of conservatives constantly.) Phyllis had no idea I exist, and judging by her statements would have likely wished I didn't. Her close family don't have an idea now. I had a few conversations with a secondary relative a couple of decades ago, who despised her. They are surely not stupid enough to think anyone who so vigorously espoused an extreme stance on (either side of) controversial issues would be universally mourned, so my consistent attitude will not hurt any feelings already not hurt a million times when she was reviled in life. Would I piss on her grave at the service? No, because a) it would be indecent exposure and b) it would be intrusive on something other people arranged for their private benefit. None of those are concerns about a discussion thread on a discussion board.

Other tacks not to bother with though are appeals to how I would feel if it were me (being dead, nothing at all) or my family (none are public figures likely to draw such comment. My mother was unpopular - and no, nothing like me in this case, she would have agreed entirely with you - and being reminded of it afer her death did not bother me in the slightest. in fact one thing the family all commented on after the funeral was it was good to be able to talk openly at family gatherings without sending the old biddy into a mad huff for once.)

But again if you really can explain real detailed reasons why being candidly consistent in personal opinion post mortem is not right, make it convincing and I will surely stop.

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I'm pissing on her grave GOLGO 13 Sep 2016 #1
I don't look forward to the day Jane Fonda dies yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #6
It will be ugly regardless of who people on this side disparage. Gormy Cuss Sep 2016 #9
The conservative movement is dying, while Jane Fonda is doing and looking great! Zen Democrat Sep 2016 #61
And you should be ashamed. Literally, of course. Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #22
No. Your scold is ineffective. The dancing continues. GOLGO 13 Sep 2016 #65
you want I should kick your grave-dancing ass, GOLGO 13? Skittles Sep 2016 #82
a corpse doesn't care. LanternWaste Sep 2016 #2
Sorry, but I'm not righteous. And I've pissed on graves in the past Cyrano Sep 2016 #5
It's not the dead who are telling you that such behavior is beneath contempt. It's the living. Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #23
Why, exactly? whatthehey Sep 2016 #41
If given a detailed explanation, would you care? Would my words budge your behavior in the slightest Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #42
Actually yes whatthehey Sep 2016 #56
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #75
Well said n/t JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #79
+1 nt brer cat Sep 2016 #83
Why? "When they go low, we go high." Michelle Obama, 2016 nt No Vested Interest Sep 2016 #43
a) not in response to comments re. dead b) I'm not campaigning for votes from the credulous masses whatthehey Sep 2016 #57
+1 JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #78
Well said. cwydro Sep 2016 #47
+1 NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #3
"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make." Iggo Sep 2016 #4
Iggo, go comment on my Ann Coulter Rob Lowe Roast post jodymarie aimee Sep 2016 #28
I kinda liked the Londoners' celebrating Thatcher's death with "Ding dong the wicked witch is dead". jalan48 Sep 2016 #7
PHYLLIE PHYLLIE PHILLIE!!! DEAD DEAD DEAD!!! n/t backscatter712 Sep 2016 #10
I'm not a fan of talking about sports, and not at all into celebrity gossip. So? whatthehey Sep 2016 #8
Hillary should go stand over her grave after the election liberal N proud Sep 2016 #11
now that is a lovely idea. and even if she doesn't, somebody can create the image! niyad Sep 2016 #12
We should fight against whitewashing the legacy of a person whose life's work was harmful to society Martin Eden Sep 2016 #13
This^ BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2016 #16
Yes, exacty! mountain grammy Sep 2016 #48
"Sometimes that includes what might be labeled 'pissing on the grave.'" No, it does not. Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #24
Honest criticism is not for "civilized people" ? Martin Eden Sep 2016 #45
LOL! Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #46
Exactly. Don't let her legacy be an ideal Ilsa Sep 2016 #74
You need to hang out with some Teamsters. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #14
Well, she wasn't Hitler. fleabiscuit Sep 2016 #15
She was Hitlette BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2016 #17
.... mountain grammy Sep 2016 #49
:D BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2016 #58
You're taking shots at her from your high horse. pintobean Sep 2016 #18
pintobean for the win! tenderfoot Sep 2016 #19
"High horse"? No, he's fully grounded and speaking to those groveling in the muck. Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #21
Lol. Sure thing, Buzz pintobean Sep 2016 #26
Conservative Cave? Yeah, the majority of them are guilty of despicable behavior, too. Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #29
I've never been a member there. How about you? pintobean Sep 2016 #34
The DI shithole? Same comment. Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #36
You brought the cave up pintobean Sep 2016 #40
"How about you?" That question? Okay: yes. Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #44
You're protecting my reputation? pintobean Sep 2016 #54
By groveling in the muck on his high horse tenderfoot Sep 2016 #27
It's silly time! Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #32
Bye. tenderfoot Sep 2016 #35
Sure. Tell me what JPR is, and the message will be relayed. Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #37
Oh dear, I agree with PB. Rex Sep 2016 #31
Me too! JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #80
Thank you, Cyrano. The time to confront our adversaries is when they are alive and active. Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #20
Unless it's Hitler. fleabiscuit Sep 2016 #25
Um... Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #30
The non sequitur has a long history as a literary device. fleabiscuit Sep 2016 #68
Doing both is integrity. Changing your tune is hypocrisy. whatthehey Sep 2016 #59
You can stow the sanctimony. No one's buying it. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2016 #69
My "sanctimony" isn't for sale. I didn't bother to read another word. Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #70
Of course you didn't. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2016 #71
Thank you for your comments. Rex Sep 2016 #33
The way I see it is, if one doesn't want anyone pissing on his/her grave, literally or Aristus Sep 2016 #38
Many of us are not into pissing on graves leimen Sep 2016 #39
She was an awful person. She's dead. MineralMan Sep 2016 #50
"Many believe Schlafly caused damage to society." Those who don't are idiots. MADem Sep 2016 #51
Its against my professional ethics to gravedance. nilesobek Sep 2016 #52
K&R saidsimplesimon Sep 2016 #53
I, for one, would never dgibby Sep 2016 #55
I won' tpiss on her grave, but... 3catwoman3 Sep 2016 #60
Why? Do people become holy when they die? lunatica Sep 2016 #62
Only after the worms hit them. JonathanRackham Sep 2016 #77
Sometime it's good to piss on graves and dance and sing shoot off fireworks. GoneOffShore Sep 2016 #63
How about laying some fresh fertilizer instead then? TheKentuckian Sep 2016 #64
makes the flowers grow!. . . .n/t annabanana Sep 2016 #67
Still dancing! GOLGO 13 Sep 2016 #66
I for one am glad she's dead. BigDemVoter Sep 2016 #72
She and those like her are responsible for the increases in maternal deaths Ilsa Sep 2016 #73
What's a little character flaw amongst friends? JonathanRackham Sep 2016 #76
Sounds like the OP has some unfinished issues nolabels Sep 2016 #81
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