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Chathamization

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65. Nor was there any segue to indicate they weren't talking about polling and the two-parties anymore
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 02:39 PM
Sep 2016

It's not uncommon for people to not recognize a word when they think you're talking about another subject. Johnson says that the case here. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but it's silly for people to assume he didn't know about the city based on the transcript.

You think that other people don't have enough of an 'in depth understanding' to be able to criticise a presidential candidate for not recognising a major battleground. Aleppo has far more people (well, had - many have fled, of course) than Afrin, and has been in the news for years (it's not just 'hot' now), because the fighting there has been sustained.


No, I think that criticizing him for superficial reasons when most people are happy with their ignorance is silly. There's a lot that gets said in the media that shows a complete lack of understanding, but it mostly gets ignored.

Yes, if he doesn't know what Aleppo is then it show's he doesn't have an in depth understanding of the situation there. But the same is true for not knowing a number of other places there, as well as having actual knowledge of what's happening in Aleppo besides "there's been fighting there." When people are ignoring the errors in the descriptions of Aleppo, or acting as if major areas of the Syrian conflict aren't important, then they honestly aren't actually interested in what's happening there. They're interesting in what's being talked about on cable. The fact that many conflate those two is pretty unsettling.

You're defending Johnson as being no worse than we are, when he plainly is.


Can't say I've paid enough attention to Johnson to make that judgement. But yes, most of the people who are talking about this don't know much about the situation there - and most importantly don't seem to care. I think most of the articles and comments about this demonstrate that.

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The word "Aleppo" alone should have clicked immediately. He didn't have a clue. n/t michaz Sep 2016 #2
If your mind was thinking of something else... kentuck Sep 2016 #5
What I find humorous is as if Mike Barnacle has any idea about Aleppo. AngryAmish Sep 2016 #12
Apples and oranges. He obviously hasn't been paying attention to events in the Middle East. redstateblues Sep 2016 #3
I agree about that point, but safeinOhio Sep 2016 #4
I have a friend that says... kentuck Sep 2016 #7
That is a perfect description wheniwasincongress Sep 2016 #11
He was a Republican when he was NM governor womanofthehills Sep 2016 #17
He is. He's wrong but he's not dumb Warpy Sep 2016 #41
how is he on abortion rights? CTyankee Sep 2016 #62
He never took much of a stand Warpy Sep 2016 #64
ffs bigtree Sep 2016 #6
No, but... kentuck Sep 2016 #8
Is it too much to expect that the word Aleppo would instantly ring a bell stopbush Sep 2016 #9
Yes it is. Harry S. Truman had zero insight into Japanese culture. AngryAmish Sep 2016 #16
Asking a Presidential candidate about Aleppo is a loaded question? kcr Sep 2016 #10
Well... kentuck Sep 2016 #13
Like, what is an opinion? kcr Sep 2016 #14
Anyone who casually reads the headline news over their morning coffee knows "Aleppo". procon Sep 2016 #15
Uh no shadowmayor Sep 2016 #18
What is a lepo ? kentuck Sep 2016 #19
What is a lepo? shadowmayor Sep 2016 #25
My Pediatrician, some 50 years ago was Dr. Leppo... Thor_MN Sep 2016 #33
He's a complete lightweight like Trump shopgirl Sep 2016 #21
Afterwards, Johnson said: CrispyQ Sep 2016 #20
He also said he's only human. StrictlyRockers Sep 2016 #24
You know, some things I like about Johnson. Beartracks Sep 2016 #39
It was a gotcha question. They are mad that Johnson will take away votes from their idol Trump. Rex Sep 2016 #22
Exactly democrattotheend Sep 2016 #36
Oh, for fuck's sake, they're attacking a candidate who knows nothing about the job he wants muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #43
They have their own personal agenda. Rex Sep 2016 #70
If it was fair or not angrychair Sep 2016 #23
Not buying it. He is a Libertarian. Those people are isolationists. He ignores news from outside. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #26
Seriously? Adrahil Sep 2016 #27
Why are you defending this Libertarian on DU? wisteria Sep 2016 #28
If he steals votes from Trump anoNY42 Sep 2016 #52
Why didn't Lauer ask Trump that question "What would you do about Aleppo?" Loki Sep 2016 #29
It was definitely a poor question... TCJ70 Sep 2016 #30
I saw it and I agree with you. Jim Beard Sep 2016 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author MichiganVote Sep 2016 #31
No excuses. I'm a 70 yr old retiree and as soon as Peregrine Took Sep 2016 #32
I think... kentuck Sep 2016 #34
I am not a smart person and I knew Aleppo was in Syria from reading my daily newspaper kimbutgar Sep 2016 #35
It wasn't dumber than falling for libertarianism. Onyrleft Sep 2016 #37
NO.. likesmountains 52 Sep 2016 #40
Pretty much. The whole thing is kind of ridiculous, more about signaling by pseudo-experts than Chathamization Sep 2016 #42
Not 'in the middle of', 'after a question about' muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #45
You don't think candidates should know about Afrin Canton? Chathamization Sep 2016 #48
Compared to the city of Aleppo, Afrin is far less important muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #51
Again, this shows the superficiality of our foreign policy discussion Chathamization Sep 2016 #56
Barnicle didn't ask "but ..."; there was no conjunction muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #60
Nor was there any segue to indicate they weren't talking about polling and the two-parties anymore Chathamization Sep 2016 #65
"Can't say I've paid enough attention to Johnson to make that judgement" - then stop judging muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #66
Hmm, maybe you should re-read my posts Chathamization Sep 2016 #67
Yeah, we've only been bombin Syria for a few years now, so why should we expect a candidate for Prez struggle4progress Sep 2016 #44
I mean, what would you know about Aleppo from reading DU for 2 weeks, for instance? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #46
Recfor exposure. GeorgeGist Sep 2016 #47
Do you know why Twitter blew up right after this? brooklynite Sep 2016 #49
His answer once informed was abysmal... boston bean Sep 2016 #50
There's no excuse for a presidential candidate not knowing about Aleppo. sarae Sep 2016 #53
Much as "Moscow" may be an interpreted as an acronym or a disease LanternWaste Sep 2016 #54
there was a later video where he still sounded clueless on the issue JI7 Sep 2016 #55
exactly Johonny Sep 2016 #61
Someone might think it was a disease or acronym if they have no clue about Aleppo. Avalux Sep 2016 #57
How kind of you to come to Gary's defense. KMOD Sep 2016 #58
when someone told me gary johnson didnt know about aleppo La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #59
Johnson is suffering from standards held in previous elections lame54 Sep 2016 #63
Perhaps, but nothing excuses him not knowing Harriet Tubman Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #68
Agree. kentuck Sep 2016 #71
Well, he needed a serious memory jolt: Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #72
Well it was a big mistake but... jcgoldie Sep 2016 #69
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